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# 15191 - 1917 DWM Luger
7/4/2015
Curt

DWM - Luger - 9mm - 4 Inches - Blue -

Our family has inherited a German Luger we were always told was extremely rare but few family members had ever seen it. It is now in a safety deposit box of the widow of the owner who brought it from Germany during world war II. It has all matching parts #01, has the original makers initials, the markings of the royal family, the 1917 date, and has 4 boxes (3 unopened) of the rare black/grey metal jacket bullets created by Nazi Germany when copper was no longer available.

Answer:
Curt, your Luger is a typical WWI military issue model made by DWM (Deutsche Waffen u. Munitionswerke) of Berlin-Borsigwalde, Germany in 1917. 1912-1918 dated DWM Lugers are the most frequently encountered WWI military Lugers, around 60,000 were manufactured in 1917. The Germans limited WWI Military Luger serial numbers to 4 digits. The serial numbers started out at the beginning of each year with serial number 1, when serial number 9999 was reached a letter suffix was added starting with "a". The markings on the right hand side of the receiver are WWI vintage military proof marks and "Gesichert" (you can find it underneath the safety) is the German word for safe. Lugers are designed so that the word Gesichert is visible when the safety is in the on position. This is meant to signal that the pistol is safe. Your magazine is the correct type for a WWI Luger with a wooden base. Later magazine basses for WWII vintage Lugers are made of aluminum. The small 01 stamps are match numbers, they are the last 2 digits of your serial number. Match numbers are used to match the various parts that they are marked on to the pistol. All of the numbers on the small parts should be 01, if they are not, value will be decreased. Marc


# 15131 - Model 1888 Mauser Commission Rifle Markings
7/4/2015
Lloyd

Hi, I purchased an 1890 Gew 88 at Bagram AB Afghanistan. I believe it to be authentic. Somehow it survived Turkish modification. I have actually fired 35 rounds through it.(Remington Core-Lokt 8mm 170GR) The first five with a string on trigger like a cannon.(not a complete idiot). The rifle is in excellent mechanical condition. I am really trying to figure out what German military unit first used this. I found websites explaining what the barrel band markings mean but cannot decipher the numbers. I have some decent quality images if you like. Bands have following markings. Lower band 11.R.2.50. Band closest to muzzle 1.J.2.? last # maybe 61. Would appreciate any help with this. Thanks in advance.

Answer:
Lloyd- Thanks for contacting Antique and Collectable Firearms and Militaria Headquarters and thank you for your service to our country.

The unit markings translate as follows: 11.R.2.50. 11th [???] Regiment, 2nd Company, weapon number 50. If it is a normal R it would indicate Regiment (usually Infantry) or Recruit depot. If it is a "script" or italic looking R then it would be a Reserve Regiment, usually infantry. 1.J.2.? last # maybe 61- 1st Jaeger [Rifle] Regiment, Company 2, weapon number (61?)

Normally an old unit marking is crossed out. If two different marks are present on various parts NOT crossed out, then likely one of the parts with the unit marks is from another rifle. Most of the parts can be matched by serial number, so that might help pick out the oddball part.

Jeff Noll's excellent book "The Imperial German Regimental Marking goes into great detail on these, and lists specific types of weapons noted with certain types of marks. John Spangler


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