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# 15432 - Remington Scoremaster
8/27/2016
Cliff, Lone Grove Oklahoma

Remington - 511 - 22 Short Long Long Rifle - 24 - Blue - NONE -

EB76 on left side of barrel just in front of receiver Wonder about manufacture date and maybe worth ?

Answer:
Cliff, the Remington Scoremaster 511 was a .22 caliber, bolt action design with a detachable magazine, 25 inch barrel, one piece hardwood stock, and a blued metal finish. It was manufactured by Remington Arms between 1939 and 1963 and then again in 1965 and 1967. Rifles manufactured before 1968 do not have serial numbers.

Remington firearms manufactured between 1921 and 1972 have a two or three letter code on the left side of the barrel that identifies the month and year of manufacture. The first letter identifies the month and the other letter(s) identify the year. You can use the Remington link on our menu to look up when your rifle was made.

Values for Scoremaster rifles in the bluebook top out at around $250. Marc


# 15313 - HENRY RIFLE INFO
8/27/2016
Marty

Henry Repeater - Blue - GB061626 -

Trying to find the year of manufacture on this rifle

Answer:
Marty- As far as I know, the Henry rifles made circa 1860 by Winchester only had numbers in the serial number. Therefore I believe you have a replica of some sort. John Spangler


# 15400 - Stainless 270 Model 70
8/23/2016
Lance, Pflugerville, Tx

Winchester - 70 - 270 - 24 - Stainless Steel - G40342 -

Classic Stainless What year is this? I used your site, but it doesn`t allow for the ''G'' to be used. your site listed this as 1941. I was told it is was purchased in the 1980`s.

Answer:
Information for the Model 70 after 1963 is sparse. Your rifle certainly was produced after 1963 as Winchester did not have a stainless finish available at that time, nor did they include letters in their serial numbers. It is more likely that your rifle is a mid 90's production. Winchester began the serial number sequence over again in roughly 1992 when they reintroduced the classic controlled round feed rifles in the standard rifle series. We suggest you contact Winchester directly to get a definitive answer to this question. They can be reached at 800-333-3288. JTW


# 15312 - M1903 Springfield
8/23/2016
Dwayne Monongahela pa

Springfield - 1903 - Not Sure - Blue - 528582 -

sa 8 - 2 0n end of barrel with flaming bomb how do I know if this gun was changed to the 30-06 caliber. I would like t shoot it once. its in remarkable condition

Answer:
Dwayne- Your rifle was made about 1912, or at least the receiver was. It was made as .30-06 caliber, long after the switch from the early .30-03 caliber to .30-06. However, I think you really intended to ask if it was made with the early heat treatment used on “low number” guns, which continued into 1918, since yours has an August 1920 dated barrel. The barrel date only reflects the date the barrel was made. The switch to improved heat treatment for the M1903 receivers was at number 800,000 (some people recommend treating everything under about 805,000 as low number). Rock Island changed at serial number 285,587. Your rifle undoubtedly saw service during WW1 and was rebuilt after WW1.

Therefore your rifle should be treated as a “low number” and most people recommend against shooting them. John Spangler


# 15384 - Ruger Police Service Six
8/20/2016
Russ, Taylorsville, Ky, Bullitt

Ruger - Police Service - Six - 357 - 4 In - Stainless Steel - 159-377784 -

I can`t find any information about this revolver?

Answer:
Russ, the Ruger Security Six was originally produced with fixed or adjustable sights, but the sighting options were eventually separated. After 1974, the Security Six had an adjustable back sight and the fixed sight model became the `Police Service Six`. For the Police Service Six, the contour of the butt was altered slightly to facilitate concealment, and the six-inch barrel option was abandoned. Marc


# 15310 - Steyr Rifle
8/20/2016
Mike. Scranton Pa.

Lester Waffenfabrik Ges Steyr - Bolt Action - Unknown - 19 Inches - Don`t Know - 8996 -

I inherited this gun from my father in law. Barrel is rusty. Not looking for value as much as information on the gun in general. Anything you could offer would be greatly appreciated.

Answer:
Mike- Sorry, not enough info to tell you much about that one. Waffenfabrik Steyr was located in Austria, and besides arming the Austrian and Hungarian armies, they also made and sold arms for many other countries. Most of their black powder guns in larger calibers have modest interest, but some of the others have more interest and value. John Spangler


# 15381 - Low Serial Model 52
8/16/2016
Bob, Bozeman, Montana

Winchester - 52 - 22LR - 28 Inches - Blue - 161 -

raise comb stock with checkering. drilled for scope With the low serial number, I`m curious to know if it has any collectors who might be interested. I would say it is in very good condition with an integral Lyman peep sight and the original sight box. Values? Thank you!

Answer:
The Model 52 is considered by many to be the best .22 caliber rifle ever produced in the United States. As such, it has a certain cache that few other rifles can claim. In order to provide an accurate estimate of the value of your rifle we strongly recommend that you have it appraised by a professional who is knowledgeable in historic Winchester rifles. One item to note is Winchester did not offer factory drilled receivers until the late 60's on the Model 52. As always any after market work performed on a rifle will greatly diminish, if not destroy, any collector value it may have had. JTW


# 15309 - Browning M1919 Machine Gun Barrel
8/16/2016
Phillip,Fort valley ,GA,peach co.

M1919 Carbine Barrel Flaming Bomb - Browning - .30 - 24'' - Parkerized - D-35233 4X -

It has a flaming bomb on the lower button of the barrle and also it has FAM beside it Can someone please please tell me what I have?the value as well I found some stuff in my attic along with some other older WW1 stuff.a browning auto 5 16 gauge also found a Stevens 311 model(A) along with some fully brass shotgun shales can you please call me at 478-235-0559 that would be greatly appreciated and I can send pictures on command.

Answer:
Phillip- Your barrel is 24 inches long, so it is for the regular M1919A4 Browning machine gun. There was an earlier 18 inch barrel used in the M1919A2 and M1919A3 by the cavalry, but these guns were made obsolete and converted to the 24 inch M1919A4 configuration in the 1930s.

The number D35233 is the drawing number for the M1919A4 barrel and the -4 at the end indicates the revision number. The same system is used on M1 Garand parts that collectors love to fuss over to decide which “dash number” is correct for which time period. Well, the M1919 barrel drawing went through 14 revisions by April 1942, and they were up to revision 6 by October 1940, so yours is somewhat earlier than that. The FAM is probably a maker mark (Frankford Arsenal?). These are big heavy barrels, and while the bore is correct for standard .30-06 ammunition the weight is much heavier. Some people have managed to turn down the exteriors to use the barrels on rifles, but most of the later barrels had Stellite liners which are very difficult to machine, so they really have little use other than their original purpose. In addition, most machine gun barrels were heavily used, and unless it was sold off as surplus before being fired, the bore may be worn by several thousand rounds making it less accurate and frankly not worth the effort to trim it down for rifle use. Value for a used barrel is probably minimal, but a new one without the Stellite line might bring $100 or so would be my guess. Just about everything you could ever want to know about these barrels is on a neat website http://browningmgs.com/Info/Barrels.htm

The other guns are good shooters but not items we would be interested in. Hope that helps. John Spangler


# 15308 - BOOT PISTOL
8/12/2016
Chuck, Suisun City, California

Boot Pistol - 5/8 Bore - 2 And 13/16 Inch - Other - NONE THAT ARE SHOWING -

Stamped on the back strap is (Con. with a z over the dot), and above the other letters. Wish I could draw them. The boot clip is on the left side, it has a trigger guard, the hammer and nipple are on the top of the receiver. The barrel looks to be removable. Total length of the pistol is 6 1/2 inches. Could you help me to identify the maker and year? The markings may be Latin, but I`m not sure.

Answer:
Chuck- I regret we cannot help much with that one. “Boot pistols” were basically cheap single shot guns which could be carried in a boot, or more often in a coat or pants pocket for self defense, or for use in attacking others. The basic design was pretty much the same all over the world, and if not marked then it is nearly impossible to identify where they were made. Many were taken elsewhere by emigrants, sailors, soldiers or travelers. The fact that yours has a clip on the left side makes this actually more specifically a “belt pistol” as that hook could be slipped into a belt without need for a holster. These tended to be a bit higher quality and cost than the basic boot pistol, and favored by a slightly more genteel and affluent market.

A removable barrel was a nice to have feature on a boot or belt pistol, as it allowed loading with a ball which would fit tightly in the breech end of the barrel and not fall out the muzzle end as with a fixed barrel gun unless heavily patched and rammed hard. The “screw barrel” feature was on the slightly higher grade guns. Of course, the trade off was that when you needed to reload you had to unscrew the barrel to load the ball and powder, so you better make your first shot count!

As a percussion gun, the date is probably between the late 1820s and about 1870. The Conz. mark sort of sounds German to me, but that is only a guess. Hope that helps. John Spangler


# 15377 - Centenarian Question
8/12/2016
Bob Ritchie, Coeur d Alene, ID

Colt - 1911 - .45 - Unknown - Blue - 48038 -

Bought this in 1913. Serial numbers on bbl. are in block print. The ones on the frame are in a cursive style script. Wondering what that represents and what value it may/may not add to gun. Thanks

Answer:
Bob, it is difficult to determine exactly which Model 1911 you might have. Colt pistols made for the U.S. military and civilian market did not have a serial number on the barrel. Colt made replacement barrels for the U.S. military with parts number on the barrel visible through the ejection port, but this number did match the serial number on the gun. Countries such as Argentina bought pistols from Colt that had the serial number on the barrel. It could be an Argentine Colt as these were imported back in the U.S. after being declared surplus. Without more information about the type of frame, the markings on the slide, etc., it's not possible to answer your question.

There is a question that I am sure many of our readers would like to know and I hope that you do not mind me asking. If you purchased this pistol in 1913, you must be well over one hundred and three years old. How old are you? Marc


# 15307 - Sedgley Glove Pistol
8/9/2016
Harold, Wilmington NC

Sedgley - Glove Pistol - 38 - Blue -

I currently own one of these Sedgley Glove Pistols with out the glove. Since only from 50 to 200 had been produced I would like to know what the current selling price would be ? I would say the pistol itself is in good condition.

Answer:
Harold- Congratulations on owning a really neat oddity. For those not familiar with a “glove pistol” these were designed by the R.F. Sedgley Company of Philadelphia during WW2. Ian McCollum has done an excellent description and video on these over at his :Forgotten Weapons” site: https://www.forgottenweapons.com/sedgley-glove-gun/ For those too lazy to click the link, these are basically a single shot device attached to the back of a work glove with a plunger sticking out in front. Go about your business, and if the need arises make a fist and punch the bad guy and as your fist makes contact that will also press the plunger back to fire the shot. Accounts vary if these were made for use by SEABEE equipment operators so they would be able to fight back against sneaky Japs climbing up on their bulldozers, or if these were made for OSS/CIA use (but they are shown in later catalogs of CIA spy gear. Or, they may have been one of those crazy ideas that pop up and get adopted before people sit down and ask if this really had any value in the real world.

I only have seen one of these, in a private collection in Montana, and they definitely are neat, but not very practical.

As far as value these are so rare that price is whatever a buyer and seller can agree on. In May 2010 Rock Island Auction offered one which had two buyers wanting it and it ended up at a $7,500 hammer price, but with the sneaky fees the auctioneers add on, it actually took $8,962.50 to take it home.

There are also potential hassles by the BATF, both because the short .38 caliber barrel is smoothbore, not rifled, and likely fall into the “any other weapon” category requiring registration. We cannot provide definitive advice on that, so you need to research that on your own. John Spangler


# 15372 - CZ27
8/9/2016
Dave Taylors SC

Fnh Pistole Modell 27 - CZ27 - 32 ACP - 3.9 - Parkerized - 456829 -

How old is this gun?

Answer:
Dave, your pistol was manufactured near the end of WWII. The Czechoslovakian Model 1927 is not a rare pistol, but I consider an example with German markings to be an essential part of any German WWII handgun collection. The CZ Mod. 1927 pistol was adopted by Czechoslovakian armed forces in 1927 and remained in production under the German occupation until 1945, then after the war into the 1950s. Pistols manufactured under German occupation after June 1941 are marked "fnh" "Pistole Modell 27 Kal. 7.65". "fnh" was the WW-II German ordnance code assigned to Bohmische Waffenfabrik, Strkonitz plant, Prague, Czechoslovakia in June, 1941. It is reported that serial numbers under German occupation were re-started at 1 and went up to over 475,000. Your serial number should be located on the top of the slide just forward of the rear sight and beneath the barrel one inch from the muzzle. It may or may not be located on the upper left side of the frame above the safety lever. Military acceptance stamp (eagle over "WaA76") should be stamped on the upper right side of the frame above the grip and beneath the barrel just forward of the locking lugs (on some pistols it is located on the top of the slide just forward of the serial number). The military test proof (eagle over swastika in a circle) should be stamped on the right side of the chamber (barrel) or on the top of the slide just forward of the serial number. A little more information than you asked for, hope it helps. Marc


# 15302 - ROD BAYONET TRAPDOOR NUMBER OUT OF RANGE
8/6/2016
Jerry, Nantucket, MA , USA

Springfield - Model 1884 - 45 70 - 32 - Blue - 140780 -

Cartouche on stock is dated 1891 and (P) marking on rifle grip Rifle has a rod bayonet, no hood on front sight, Butt plate has a trap door accesses two storage tubes. The serial number indicates the rifle was manufactured in 1880 according to Springfield`s records. The rifle was represented as a Springfield manufactured rifle. Any ideas on the guns story... Thank you for your time.

Answer:
Jerry- Your rifle is an oddity that may or may not be as it was originally assembled by Springfield Armory. The serial number 140780 was probably applied to the receiver about 1880, and it is below the normal serial number range of the 1,000 Model 1881 Triangular Rod Bayonet rifles which had numbers around 156,000. Another 1,000 Rod Bayonet rifles were made for trials in 1884-1885 but they were scattered in the 314,000-321,000 range, and these used a hood for the front sight which actually contained the front sight blade and you specifically state that yours has no hood so it cannot be one of those.

The 1891 cartouche date and rod bayonet are consistent with the Model 1888 as made 1890-1893 with a total production of about 60,000 rifles. These are normally found with serial numbers starting around 506,000. However, Model 1888 rifles are documented with “out of range” serial number 56401, 97193, 408474, 415616 all in federal museums, possibly prototypes or something made up using whatever receivers happened to be on hand, perhaps salvaged from damaged rifles. Five other numbers in the 315,000- 456,000 are noted as M1888 rifles in the hands of troops but may be transcription errors of some sort, but the first two are likely some of the M1884 rod bayonet rifles which were converted to M1888 configuration.

I am aware of several other trapdoor rifles with “out of range” numbers, and the consensus among collectors is that occasionally an “out of range” receiver might turn up in the back of a bin at Springfield and be used many years after it was made. However, such events were unusual, or an oddity, and viewed with caution. It is entirely possible that your rifle has had the receiver replaced due to being damaged (cracking at the holes for the hinge pin sometimes happened. Maybe Bubba at the local National Guard unit managed to drop it and break it, and the unit had another older rifle with a bad barrel, so they just swapped receivers.

My opinion is that it is an oddity, and likely not made in this configuration, so the collector value (to most collectors) would likely be significantly less than a totally “correct” rifle. However, to a shooter, the oddity serial number may not make any difference at all. John Spangler


# 15475 - Found a Remington Rand
8/6/2016
John, Williston, Fl

Remington Rand - M1911 A1 - 45 - 6in - Parkerized - 1491611 -

Is this a gun with any collectable Value. I have found the it was made in 1943 in New York but cant find any value listed

Answer:
John, there is quite allot of collector interest in Remington Rand 1911A1 pistols if they are in good condition and have not been modified. We may be interested in purchasing your pistol, please contact us by using the following link:

http://oldguns.net/email/

Hope this helps, Marc


# 15366 - John Wayne 32-40
8/2/2016
Jeff, Orange Grove Tx US

Winchester - Model 94 - 32-40 - 18 1/2 - Other - JW 41382 -

John Wayne 32-40 Brand New in the box What is the Value?

Answer:
Jeff, I have never had much use for commemoratives. Some commemorative production has reached well over 250,000 and this has lowered demand. Although some commemorates have pretty hefty book values, actually selling them for book prices is usually almost impossible, even for the few relatively scarce models.

Winchester manufactured the Buffalo Bill commemorative in 1981, total production was 49000. Blue book value for this model is around $1500 if the gun is in flat new, unfired condition and you have the original box and all of the papers that originally came with it. If your rifle is not unfired and in new condition, the value will be significantly lower. Even light freckling created by touching the metal surfaces reduces value. A fired gun with obvious wear or without its original packaging can lose as much as 75% of its value. Many used commemorates get sold as fancy shooters with little, if any, premium being asked. Marc


# 15301 - Burnside Carbine History
8/2/2016
Gilbert, Hendersonville, NC

Burnside Carbine - 1862 - .58 - 56 Inches - Blue - 17729 -

Burnside Rifle CO Providence RI Same Serial Number on all three Moving parts. What is the history of this weapon,

Answer:
Gilbert- There is no documented history on that number, but some with very close numbers were in use by an Indiana Cavalry regiment in 1865. Perhaps yours was too and the documentation has not survived, or perhaps it went somewhere else, but we will never know for sure. The Burnside carbines were made in five distinct models, but with varying markings and mechanical details, and the dates and model markings on the guns not always consistent with what have become the standard collector designations as outlined in Flayderman’s Guide.

These are actually .54 caliber, not .58 and use a unique brass cartridge case that sort of resembles a tiny ice cream cone with the bullet stuck into the ice cream. The tapered end of the case fits into the breechblock when it is opened up, and a small hole allows the flash from the percussion cap on the nipple to ignite the powder inside. The front of the case has a fat round bulge (think ice cream) which serves to seal the joint between the breechblock and the end of the barrel when the action is closed. The bullet fits in the front of the bulged area and does not stick out too much to allow the breechblock to pivot shut. These were a pretty good design, with more than 50,000 purchased for use by Union cavalry troops during the Civil War, and they were pretty well received and the ammunition stood up well to the rigors of campaigning, but suffered from the need to manually use percussion caps instead of being a self contained metallic cartridge. Probably the most interesting thing about the Burnside is the fact that it was invented by the first President of the National Rifle Association, although more people know of him for his service as a Governor of Rhode Island, or as a Civil War general. But, he is best known for his outrageous facial hairstyle which was twisted to give us the term “Sideburns.” John Spangler


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