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# 15328 - Safe To Shoot?
James, Monroeville, PA

Winchester - 1890 - 22 W.R.F. - 24 Inches - Blue - 342439 -

Octagon barrel has a bulge 7 inches from end of barrel. I believe it was fired with moisture in the barrel. Is it safe to shoot?

James, you would be foolish to trust the word of someone who has never even seen your rifle to tell you weather or not it is safe to fire. In our society where everyone seems to be ready to file a law suit for even the slightest provocation, I would be just as foolish to answer that kind of question. Take the safe rout and consult a local gunsmith who will be able to examine the rifle. Marc

# 15280 - Making M1903 Rifle From Scratch

Question - I'm trying to CNC a new stock for a 1903 Springfield but I need to know the dimensions of the stock inside and out first. Any information about the stock dimension is greatly appreciated.

Cole- That sounds like an interesting project. Fortunately, your request is an easy one, if you look at the right resources.

A complete stock will be a very difficult project, mainly due to the length and the tendency of the wood to flex during machining, and the likely need for many specialized cutters. Also, finding a reliable source of gun stock quality American black walnut may be difficult and expensive.

Dunlap Woodcarving makes a pretty good quality 90% finished M1903 stock (along with a long list of other gun stocks, mostly for muzzle loading muskets.)

As a starter project, you may want to play around making the "spare parts containers" that fit in the M1903 butt stock. These were usually made from walnut. Details including drawings are on pages 240-242 of the link below. I think there is a collectors' market for these.

The complete stock details are found starting on pages 244-268.

Fred H. Colvin & Ethan Viall, Manufacture of the Model 1903 Springfield Service Rifle.

This is available as a soft cover Wolf reprint edition for about $70.00, and also under the original title "United States rifles and machine guns, a detailed account of the methods used in manufacturing the Springfield, 1903 model service rifle, also descriptions of the modified Enfield rifle and three types of machine guns" in the original 1917 hardbound edition (with brittle old paper) or in "print on demand" paper copies, but on smaller paper, and also as "print on demand" .pdf files.

Unlike many of the print on demand books, the drawings should be okay in these, because the are printed on the regular pages, not fold out plates in the back which the copiers usually do not bother to copy.

Hope that helps! Let me know how the project turns out. John Spangler

# 15279 - Winchester Model 1897 Shotgun

Winchester - Model 1897 - 149374 -

I am trying to get information on a 12ga. model 1897, serial number 149374. I have been told in that when they were made, Winchester had a great fire and most that were saved did not have matching numbers but, a few did, and mine has matching numbers. I have looked over your numbers and dates, and I can not find my serial number, can you help me with this. Thank you.

Sir- Your gun was made in October 1901, and as far as I know there was no major fire around that time, or any other time. Nearly all the Winchester Model 1897/97 shotguns are found with matching numbers, and only a few ended up with mixed numbers over the years, so I think the value of your gun will depend on the condition alone, or any special features. They are good guns, and most are still used regularly. I seem values running from maybe $250 up depending on condition and gauge and barrel length.

Hope that helps. John Spangler

# 15322 - Broomhandle Parts Source
Ken, Coral Springs, FL

Mauser - C 96 Broomhandle - 9 Mm - 5.5 - Blue - 117896 -

Do you have in stock or able to get an Extractor New Style (Late Model) for the above captioned pistol.

We do not have the part that you need. Recommend you check with Gun Parts Corp (the old Numrich Arms people) at the following URL:

Gun Parts Corp has just about everything. If that doesn't work, try posting it on our free "Wanted" page at the following URL:

# 15323 - S&W Duty Weapon

S&W - 38 - 3" - Blue -

Valuation for insurance purposes - S&W revolver with holster, belt and badge.

My son in law has inherited his grandfather's duty weapon which was worn while serving in the Prescott Arizona PD from 1946 to 1950. It is a S&W 4 screw with barrel shroud. Barrel appears to me to be about 3" with no markings, .38 Special caliber. Weapon is in about 90% condition - the grips are in really good shape for a duty weapon, they are usually banged up getting in and out of vehicles - and the bore is bright and sharp. The internals are in excellent condition, the cylinder is timed correctly and locks up perfectly. No model designation

This is a tough one. I believe Smith and Wesson changed from the five screw to the four screw frame about 1956 or 1957. The frame could not have been used in 1946 to 1950. The barrel with no markings is not original to the gun, and has to be replacement barrel. So if the barrel is a replacement and the frame are newer than the time of service with the police department the pistol is really a shooter worth what someone will pay for it as shooter, likely around $150 to $200.

# 15270 - Cracked Barrel Colt Value
Jerry, Chattanooga Tn.

Colt - 1851 Navy - 36 - Blue - 113617 -

This gun has a very slight bulge in the barrel with a hairline crack above it. I believe there is a bullet lodged in it. It is not really noticeable until you look at it hard but it`s there. How much does a defect like this take away from it`s value ? It`s in otherwise pretty decent condition. Thanks in advance.

Jerry- Thanks for the excellent description of the gun. But, the answer is not easy.

Some collectors are “condition collectors” and they would not want this one at any price. Others are bargain hunters and willing to accept guns with flaws and I suspect they would pay about half to two thirds of what a similar gun without the bulged/cracked barrel might bring. Others are “history collectors” and for them, they might overlook the flaws IF there was some documented history.

A few years ago I saw a M1851 Colt Navy with one chamber in the cylinder cracked, but with documented history to a specific Civil War regiment. I considered getting this one, and it is not too hard to find original parts and the cylinder could have been replaced. But, then the drop in value for mismatched numbers would probably cancel out any increase from the lack of damaged parts. Such a gun might bring a bit more from someone who is more of a “Civil War collector” than a “gun collector.”

Just for info, there is no documented history available on your gun, but others in the same serial number range were in the hands of different Civil War cavalry regiments as of November, 1862. Hope that helps. John Spangler

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