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# 14967 - Cleaning An Antique Gun
Melinda Cable, San Jose, CA

Civil War Musket - Musket - Don't Know - Don't Know - Blue - DON'T HAVE -

It has a rod to push down the barrel. I have a civil war musket that is passed down. I want to clean off handling fingerprints off the metal barrel and the wooden stock. What should I use? Rubbing alcohol? Please recommend. Thank you.

Melinda- As the doctors say, “First, do no harm.”

As for removing fingerprint rust, try rubbing lightly with extra fine (0000 grade) steel wool, lubricated with some WD-40 or lightweight oil. I would leave the stock alone as any cleaning will probably do more harm than good. John Spangler

# 15052 - Possible Ex-Dragoon
Alan, Bryson City NC

Tula 91/30 - Tula M91/30 - 7.62x54r - 91/30 - Blue -

Big Hammer pre-28 Tula I have a Hex Mosin Tula made pre `28 rebarreled at Tula in 1943. I can't find another like it and it's not even listed on on the ''rarity'' page.. I can't get thru to his email, Thanks for your help..Alan

Alan, the rifle you described is most likely a standard 1891 that was worn out and needed to be rebarreled so it could return to service in the Red Army during the second world war. If this is the case, it is a relatively common Nagant. However, as with all things Nagant, there is a lot of minutia that can greatly alter the value. It is possible that you have a rifle that is referred to as an "ex-dragoon." If the rear sight is the standard metric sight, and it appears to be welded on to the barrel that is an indication you own an ex-dragoon. It also must have the globe and post front sight rather than the blade type seen on 1891's. Ex-dragoon rifles are more desirable, and typically (depending on condition of course) command a small premium over standard rifles. Josh Wade

Edward Patterson N.Y

Unknown - Unknown - Unknown - None - Other - NONE -

Thank You for answering My previous question on Webley Green revolvers. I would like to buy a W.W.2 deactivated anti tank rifle grenade. I have never seen one other than training dummies. Are these available? approx. what price would they be ? Thanks again. Happy 4th 0f July.

Edward, the most commonly seen WW2 anti-tank rifle grenades are the M11 series (M11, M11A1, M11A2, M11A3, M11A4) which are practice versions made with a machined tube for the tail section, a cast iron body and a pressed sheet steel nose piece that screws on to the body, and a ring type tail fin. Visually these are about identical to the M9 series High Explosive Anti-Tank (HEAT) rifle grenades which had a different body and nose cap, and included explosive filler and a copper cone to make it function as a “shaped charge” to concentrate the blast so it would punch through enemy armor. A live example of the M9 would be a “destructive device” and illegal to own unless registered with BATF. I have never heard of one in the collector world, and due to their potential danger only an idiot would want one under any circumstances. There are probably some that were made with inert fillers for training or display purposes, but I think I have seen or heard of less than a handful of those over the last 40 years. So, unless you get very lucky, get one of the M11 series practice jobs and live happily ever after. John Spangler

# 15050 - Great Western Derringer Info & Parts

Great Western Arms Co. - 2 Shot Derringer - .38 - 3 Inch - Blue - 480 -

Great Western Arms Co. stamped along the top rib. Serial number stamped above the trigger area. How many .38 Derringers did the Great Western Arms Co. manufacture and are there any parts available for the derringers made by the GWA Co. such as plastic grips?

Sam, the Great Western Arms Company operated from the early 1950s to the early 1960s. They sold both Colt SAA clones and Remington Double Derringer copies. Parts for the firearms that they marketed were imported from Europe (either Spain or Italy) and assembled in Los Angeles. When Colt began producing their Second Generation SAA revolvers in 1956 Great Western ceased assembly and sold their firearms in kit form only.

The Great Western Derringer was an improved version of the Remington Double Derringer. The model was available in .38 S&W and .38 S&W Special calibers. Values in the blue book for Great Western Derringers ranges in the $200 to $350 range depending on condition.

I have been unable to find a source of parts, recommend you check with Gun Parts Corp (the old Numrich Arms people) at the following URL:

Gun Parts Corp has just about everything. If that doesn't work, try posting it on our free "Wanted" page. Marc

# 14935 - Model 1891 Argentine Mauser Rifle

Mauser - 891 - Argentino - 7.65 ?? - Don't Know - P8830 -

Several small ''symbols'' Bolt action with a scope. Is this a sniper rifle, is it rare?

Emily- Your rifle started off as the standard Model 1891 Argentine Mauser in 7.65mm caliber. A very small number of these rifles were altered for use with a 5 power telescope made in France by SOM, and mounted offset to the left side of the receiver with a very distinctive mount. These original sniper rifles are very rare and valuable.

However, I am willing to bet that your rifle has an American or Japanese made scope mounted directly above the receiver, and the bolt handle has been bent to clear it. If so, this is an alteration done by surplus dealers to sell these rifles to deer hunters. These have very minimal value or demand and I see some priced at $150 or so.

Your best reference is to check pages 77-78 of Colin Webster’s superb “Argentine Mauser Rifles 1871-1959.” John Spangler

# 15048 - Winchester With Two Serial Numbers

Winchester - 1906? - .22cal - Blue - 463313 or 355294? -

An ''A'' is stamped on the receiving block under the no.355294 What do I have here. One says that the no. 463313 is manufactured in 1916 and another says that no. 355294 was manufactured in 1913? Any idea where I can find out which is correct? How much is it worth?

Jim, if your Winchester has two different serial numbers, it is probably a parts gun which was made up from at least two different donors. According to new information from the Winchester collectors web site, both of the dates that you mentioned are incorrect. The part that has serial number 355294 was manufactured in 1912, and the part that is stamped 463313 was manufactured in 1915.

Values for parts guns are much lower than they are for guns that have all matching numbers and for some reason, Winchester Model 1906 rifles are not as popular as the 1890s, the 61s or the 62s. I would estimate that value for a Winchester 1906 with two different serial numbers would top out at about $250-$300. Hope this answers your questions, Marc

# 15041 - Thames Arms Co. Pistol
Larry, Metairie, La.

Thames Arms Co. - 38 - 3 Inches - Nickel - UNKNOWN -

I have a 5 shot 38 caliber pistol manufactured by Thames Arms Co. pat Jan. 5, Oct.5 1886. I haven't been able to find any info on it, would appreciate if you can find anything on it. Is it worth anything? Where can I bring it? What to do with it?

Larry, the only info I could find on Thames Arms Co. is that they made cheap revolvers circa 1900. Harrington and Richardson used Thames as a brand name on some of their products later, so I suspect that Thames was absorbed by H&R. The "cheap revolvers" made in 1898 or earlier have some interest as decorator items and a few collectors like them because they can get a huge collection without spending very much money. Values run from about $25 up to maybe $100-150 for really nice ones with oddball features. However, if made after 1898 they are considered "modern guns" by the BATF and subject to all the record keeping and probably local licensing foolishness as if they were a brand new Smith & Wesson semi-automatic.

As for your question about where you can bring it and what to do with it, that all depends on your situation. Where there is any family history, we encourage people to keep these old guns for sentimental value. Please be warned that most of these are not considered safe to shoot. If you just want to sell, I suggest that you take it to the next local gunshow and show it to dealers there who have similar items on their table. Tell them that the revolver is for sale and see if you get any offers. Marc

# 14926 - Remington Made By Pietta Or Pirelli
David Cleburne TX

Pietta - 1858 Remington - 44 - 7 3/4 - Other - SERIAL # 233 -

two diamond shape & # 015887 I would like to know any & all info on Pirelli

David- Pirelli makes fine tires and people like them a lot. Pietta makes nice replicas of black powder firearms, and people like those too. Like most of the Italian made replica arms, there is little collector interest, although a few folks have become fascinated with them, and they can be an interesting and pretty inexpensive collecting field. Values typically run from $100-250 for decent ones and even pristine examples only bring a little more, and they are mostly nice shooters, I am told. Hope that helps. John Spangler

# 15038 - Remington DOM
Tracy, Parma Michigan

Remington - 1100 Sportsman 48 - 12 Gauge - 28 Or 30? - Blue - 307683.7 -

What year was this gun made?

Tracy, I get asked this type of question about Remington's quite often, here is the answer that I usually give:

I only have information on Remingtons made between 1921 and 1972. Remingtons made between 1921 and 1972 have a code located on the left side of the barrel near the frame that identifies the year and month of manufacture. The following letters correspond to the months of the year, for example B=January, L= February and so on [ B - L - A - C - K - P - O - W - D - E - R - X ]. The following letters correspond to the year of manufacture starting in 1921 and ending in 1972. [ M - N - P - R - S - T - U - W - X - Y - Z - A - B - C - D - E - F - G - H - J - K - L - MM - NN - PP - RR - SS - TT - UU - WW - XX - YY - ZZ - A - B - C - D - E - F - G - H - J - K - L - M - N - P - R - S - T - U - W ]. Marc

# 14925 - German GEW 88 Mauser Rifle Made In 1891
Alex, Bangor, Maine

Loewe Berlin - 1891 Mauser? - 8mm - No Clue - Don't Know - 6067 -

67 on all parts except bolt which says 6067 This is what I know about this rifle, It was supposable taken from a WW1 or WW2 cant remember battlefield. It says on the part covering the front of the bolt ''Loewe Berlin 1891'' and on the side of the barrel next to the bolt ''Gew 88''. It has two markings on the back that from what I can tell are the letter B and what looks like a 6 with three circles or a crown about the 6. Every single piece on the rifle has the number 67 except the bolt that says 6067. ''I'm guessing that's the model number?'' Its missing the clip but the bolt still works which I found out by accidently dry firing it. ''Grandmother nearly killed me when I did'' But if anyone has any information about this gun, please let me know. and if you need any info about it, send me a email!

Alex- Your rifle is the Model 1888 infantry rifle, designated the “Gewehr 88” as marked on the side of the receiver. It was made by Loewe in 1891, the firm that later merged with Mauser to become Deutsche Waffen und Munitions, the main German gun maker. It looks like all the parts match the 6067 serial number, and only the last two digits are used on the smaller parts, such as screws. These were pretty much obsolete by 1914, but still used by many second line units and for training, so the WW1 souvenir story is probably correct. However, there have been thousands of this model sold on the surplus market over the last 50 years, usually for very modest prices. Some, were only used by the Germans, while others which are considered much less desirable by collectors were passed along to Turkey where Arabic numbers were stamped on the sights and bolts, and the guns badly abused. Values for the Turked up examples are very low, but a good German used example can be over $500, with well used examples bringing less, but still more than the Turkish junk. John Spangler

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