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# 14274 -
Unknown 16 Gauge
DBL Barrel -
16 Gauge -
29 1/2 -
Scott, South Lake Tahoe, CA
ANDR AHL ARENDSEE John Spangler answered a question in 1998 Question #1276 about a gun
similar to mine. I believe my gun is a 16 gauge, DBL Barrel, very ornate detailing, both hammers
appear to strike a hexed head anvil but the interior of the receiver looks like firing pin holes. The
barrel breaks like a conventional side by side. In between the barrels, on top, 2 inches up from the
hammers the words ANDR AHL ARENDSEE are printed in gold. Do you have any more
information on such a gun? Year it was made? By who? etc??? Thanks
Scott- Sorry, I have not information at all on that maker. Hammer
style double barrel shotguns were mainly popular circa 1880-1920 but that does not rule out
possibly earlier or later manufacture.
# 14363 -
Light Twelve Value
Light Twelve -
12 Ga. -
Michael Valparaiso, Indiana
This gun is in good condition, what is it worth?
Michael, demand for this model has decreased because they are not
designed to be able to use steel shot. Values range between $300 and around $700 depending
on condition. Marc
# 14357 -
Use The Link!
22 Short -
octagon / pump -
Don't Know -
Ted ,Ubly, Michigan
None Date of manufacture and value ?
Ted - to find
the date of manufacture for your Winchester, use the link located on our FineOldGuns.com menu
bar on the left hand side of the page. Marc
# 14305 -
Percussion Combination Rifle And Shotgun
I have a 16 gauge shotgun by 40 caliber muzzleloading percussion gun. It is in excellent
condition and the only markings on it is the name J. Harding printed twice on the metal. It seems
as if he made the entire gun as there are no markings of import on the underside of the barrels. I
am looking to sell it and would appreciate any information you may have and would entertain
Joel- This was probably made by Josiah
Harding of Covington, PA, (Tioga County) perhaps in the 1870s-1880s at the very end of the
percussion era. I have no information on him other than the location and dates (1882-1890) from
Frank Sellers' "American Gunsmiths."
"Combination guns" with one rifled and one smoothbore barrel were very popular along the
border between Pennsylvania and New York, and most we have seen come from that region, with
very few from anywhere else, but there are always exceptions.
There is not a lot of demand for these, and values tend to be modest, usually in the several
hundred dollar range. However, they are neat old guns. Hope that helps. John
# 14358 -
Pre 64 Winchester Model 94 AE?
44 Remington Mag -
16 inch -
Jon, Pleasant Grove, UT
Is there any possibility that this rifle could have been made prior to 1964
Jon, the serial number ranges in my reference books for Model 94
Winchesters top out in 1982 at 5103249. Your Winchester was made some time after
# 14365 -
Merry Christmas From John and Marc.
It's Christmas weekend and John and I hope you are spending time with family and friends,
laughing, enjoying each other's company, and eating good food.
Please remember our troops who are still overseas in this weekend. Let's not forget their sacrifice
as they're away from their families. If you know someone who is serving, please give them a big
thank you and a Merry Christmas.
John and I would like to thank all of our visitors, customers, old friends and new friends that we
have made this year for helping us have a great 2011. We appreciate your support, business, the
questions that you send us and your friendship. We would like to wish everyone a very Merry
# 14313 -
Marc and John, What is the value of the referenced M1911A1 pistol? It is in excellent
condition. Thank you for your time and expertise.
Arch, your Remington Rand was manufactured in 1943. Values for
Remington Rand 1911A1 pistols can range from about $300 for pistols that have been modified
or that are in poor condition to over $2000 for pistols in excellent condition. We usually have
some Remington Rand 1911A1s listed for sale in our catalog pages. For an example, you can
compare your pistol with some of the ones that we have listed.
# 14304 -
Remington Model 14 Pump Action Rifle
All I know that it is a 30 Remington caliber pump rifle. I just can't find a model # on it. it just has
Pedersen's pat Oct 12,09,july 5.10.nov.19,12.
That would be the Remington Model 14. John Spangler
# 14303 -
Spanish Colonial Era Pistol Found In Western U.S.
In my youth in western Colorado, in the 1950's I dug up a most unusual pistol. Our property had
a promontory shale hill and provided a panorama view of that part of the valley. I speculated that
the earliest explorers of the region were Spanish conquistadors, and it is possible that such a vista
was visited by such explorers. The weapon may have inadvertently fallen and over the centuries
been buried by erosion. This pistol was entirely metal, a single barrel with two metal peep sights
in line down the barrel. The pistol grip was merely the curved extension of the barrel. The grip
itself was totally curved almost like a metal cane grip. The unit was so rusted and deteriorated
that there was no distinguishable features in the trigger mechanism or any firing pin. The barrel
itself was around the size of a 45 caliber but it was so rusted and filled most of the way with
sediment. It was the two metal peep sights aligned on top of the barrel that I have never seen on
other weapons. The end of the barrel was too rusted to see any other features that would have
allowed alignment of the peep sights.
Sir- The best
reference on arms of that era would be:
Brinckerhoff, Sidney B., and Pierce A. Chamberlain. Spanish Military Weapons in Colonial
America, 1700-1821. Harrisburg, PA: Stackpole Books, 1972
# 14272 -
J. W. Fecker Scpoe Info.
J. W. Fecker ''Scope'' -
Douglas, Madison, Wi.
I have my dads old J.W. Fecker scope It is 26 & 3/16'' long with caps on. Tube is 3/4'' Eye is
7/8'' barrel end 1 & 5/8'' The Serial # is 3148 Do you know any history of this scope. And any
estimated value. (It is in excellent shape) Douglas P. Mather
Douglas, J. W. Fecker scopes were first introduced in the mid 1920s
and they stayed in production to the early 1960s. The founder of the company, J. W. Fecker was
a highly regarded optical engineer who designed the second largest (at the time) astronomical
telescope in the world.
One of the most unique characteristics of Fecker rifle scopes was their sliding erector lens which
was used for distance focusing. The unique focusing adjustment made it easier for a shooter to
adjust from a natural shooting position.
Every Fecker scope was focused individually while at the factory for many different ranges. These
settings were recorded with the scope's individual serial number on the instructions that came the
scope. One review in 1927 indicated that the Fecker rifle scope was "Without question the finest
target telescope and mounts in existence." Hope this helps,
# 14270 -
1913 Bayonet Info.
Don't Know -
Penny, Norton, Ohio
This has what looks like a British symbol with a 2A on it. This is a Remington 1913 bayonet, with
Remington being in the circle. It is 17'' long and has NSx stamped on it. Any information would
Penny, the Pattern 1913 bayonet was
made to be issued with the British P-14 rifle, these were manufactured in the U.S.A., for an
experimental, 276 caliber cartridge. The P-14 rifle contract was not complete when WWI broke
out and to help supply the war effort, the British requested that all P-14 rifles be rechambered for
the standard .303 caliber British cartridge.
P-14 rifles used a bayonet similar to the pattern 1907 bayonet, but it was not interchangeable.
The primary difference is the P-14 muzzle ring which sets much higher, due to the bayonet stud
placement on the rifle. 1913 bayonets were manufactured by both Remington and Winchester
and many contain both British and U.S. markings, as they were used by both countries during both
the first and second world wars. The Pattern 1913 bayonet is interchangeable with the U.S.
Model 1917 bayonet. Marc
# 14302 -
High Standard Model B- U.S. Marked
High Standard -
Joel, South Carolina
I was at the South Carolina Arms Collectors Association Show in Columbia, SC. I saw at one
table display several pistols under glass, one HS Model U.S.A H-D blued, one HS Model U.S.A H-
D parkerized, and one HS B-US, all military/US Government marked. I did not have a parkerized
HS Model U.S.A H-D, but do have a Blued one, so I was more interested in the B-US. I looked at
it, negotiated a price and took it home. When I got home I pulled out Charles Pates' “U.S.
Handguns of World War II, The Secondary Pistols and Revolvers” and became very disappointed
as this pistol was not within the SN range of 92344-111631 and therefore I believed was a fake.
But a small footnote of 11 was next to the serial number 92344. I turned to the Chapter Twelve
footnote and find the following….
“Serial number 87558 has been reported with military/US property markings identical to the B-US.
According to the factory shipping records, the only pistol with this serial number was shipped to a
gun dealer on 9/14/41. Given the state of the High Standard shipping records, this pistol could
easily be production B-US.”
I looked at this pistol, which is easily about 99% and looking almost factory new and it has serial
number 87558. Even the grip screws look like they have never seen a screwdriver. Do you know
what this means? I cannot believe there is a cottage industry cranking out fake stamps on High
Standards for unsuspecting collectors, do you?
Does this pistol have a value? What would you think it would be? Or is it just a case of buyer
beware and this particular pistol found another mark? Thanks for all that you do.
Joel- Charlie Pate is meticulous in his research, and I would defer to
whatever he says.
In the early days of WW2 there was a major effort to sweep up all types of arms that would meet
specifications of those being delivered to fill military contracts. Lots of shotguns were obtained
from wholesalers and dealer inventory that way for use in training programs.
I can only speculate that this may have been the case with this one as well. Or, it may have been
shipped to a dealer 9/14/41 and subsequently returned to High Standard for some reason so it
was on hand again, and delivered with the rest falling in the "normal" serial number range.
Remember, the ordnance inspection and acceptance markings was done on completed guns, not
as part of the manufacturing process with checking of individual parts as with M1903 or M1 rifle
I suspect it is legitimate, albeit an anomaly from most of its siblings. It is up to the individual
collector to determine if that makes it a rare and valuable oddity, or perhaps less valuable than
the "normal" ones.
Anyway, that is my opinion on it. John Spangler
# 14301 -
1000 Pound Demolition Bombs In WW2
Our cargo going to Oran North Africa carried large bombs. I remember them being about 30" in
diameter. Were they 1000 lb bombs?
Sir- Thank you
for your service to our country as part of the “Greatest Generation!”
The WW2 1,000 pound bombs had a body diameter about 18 inches. The 2,000 pound bombs
had a body diameter of about 24 inches, so those are the two choices closest to your 30 inch
diameter. At the time, the sometimes used protective bands of some sort around the body of the
bomb, probably to protect the suspension lugs, and these also acted sort of like the felloes of a
wagon wheel and allowed people to roll the bombs when handling them. Those would have
added another 4-6 inches to the outside diameter. Hope that helps. John
# 14266 -
Sears And Roebuck -
20 In -
Don't Know -
The only markings are on the top of the barrel, Atlas gun co. Ilion ny, patent feb 18 1892. Its my
grandfathers gun that he has had since he was 16. it was given to him as a gift. He wanted to
know what it was worth today, also it has little to no rust and still functions exactly as it did when it
was originally bought. Thanks I hope to here a response.
Adam, unfortunately there is not allot of collector or shooter interest
in firearms that were marketed by Sears, we have been selling rifles that are similar to yours this
year in our sale catalog for $50 and $100. Marc
# 14311 -
Another What's It Worth
Tony, Westerly, RI
How much is this rifle worth?
Tony, my references
indicate that your Winchester was manufactured between 1943 and 1948. Values for Model 94
Winchesters that were manufactured before 1964 can range from one or two hundred dollars to
well over one thousand dollars depending on condition, type and options.
# 14180 -
Muzzle Loader Cap Rifle -
none visible I am pretty sure it is wall hanger but I was hoping someone could tell me if I am on
the right track... A co-worker showed me a `old family gun` today. knowing next to nothing about
mussel loaders and just enough to be dangerous about modern firearms my first impression was
`wall hanger`. Here is the long and the short of it... Thin walls for the barrel, under 1/8'' (no ruler
handy at the time, same for caliber, though my fat finger didn't get to the first knuckle) No rifling
visible. No markings visible on barrel or stock. Heavy pitting but anything bigger then a 1/16''
should be visible Ram rod only sized to reach about 3'' short of the nipple. Hammer on right side
with percussion cap nipple. No budge for breach area visible on barrel. It is non-firing. The
stock is cracked in a dozen places and the hammer is corroded and loose. I just want to be able
to tell him if it use to be a firing weapon. If anyone thinks it is worth it I can try to get some photos
or measurements. Thanks for the help.
on your pretty thorough description, I would agree that this is strictly a wall hanger and NOT
SAFE TO FIRE! Value is probably very modest, but without photos it is hard to be sure what is
was originally. The bad news is that rare junk is still junk. John
# 14177 -
Old Dueling Pistols?
Dueling Pistols -
33 And A 38 -
Don't Know -
yes there are 2 different markings on them. Best way I can describe them is 1 looks like some sort
of pin and the other kind of looks like a fire hydrant? I have 2 pistols that have been in the family
for years, was told they are over a 100yrs) was told they are South American dueling pistols. I
would like to know more about them, Make and just how old they maybe. Thanks.
Diana- Sorry, my crystal ball is not working today, so I would need to
see some photos on these. Most guns made for the South American market were fairly low quality
and have little collector demand, but maybe you got lucky with these. But, don’t bet on it! John
# 14264 -
7.65. 32 Cal -
4 In -
Gary, Lebanon, Indiana
Left side of slide has..Ortgies`Patent. Deutsche Werke Aktiengesellschaft,Werk Erfurt. Back of butt
looks like a M, then looks like a square leaf or badge same size as the M. Then 24... So looks like
..M#24. Then on right side slide right behind trigger has a matching mark, one on body, and
one on slide. They are lined up ,one on top of the other. Looks like a crown on top of a N. It also
has wood grips with a gold badge in middle, looks like a O on top of a H it also has B K
underneath the wood grips. And the serial # is at the front of trigger guard on bottom side. Has a
squeeze handle safety. and the release is on left side towards the back. My father recently died,
leaving me the firearm. I'm trying to figure out what it is and its value. Any help would b
Gary, I can tell you a little about
Ortgies. The founder of Ortgies (Heinrich Ortgies) was a German but he lived in Liege for many
years, and may have been connected with the firearms business there. During his residence in
Belgium, Ortgies designed an automatic pistol incorporating certain ingenious details which he
patented in about 1916. After WWI, Ortgies returned to Germany and set up in business in Erfurt
manufacturing the Ortgies pistol. Ortgies manufactured upwards of 10,000 pistols and they proved
to be such a great success that Deutsche Werke of Erfurt made him an attractive offer to buy his
business which he accepted. In 1921 Deutsche Werke took over the Ortgies patents, tools and
stock, and began making Ortgies pistols. Original Orgies made pistols are marked on the slide
'Ortgies & Co Erfurt Ortgies Patent', the grips came with a bronze medallion with the intertwined
initials 'HO', these grip medallions were retained by Deutsche Werke for some years, and they also
retained the wording 'Ortgies Patent'. Later production dropped both these features.
Unfortunately there is not much collector interest in Ortgies pistols I often see them offered for
sale at gunshows in the $125.00 - $250 range. Marc
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