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# 14717 -
Page-Lewis Serial Numbers?
Ronald Ft Myers, FL
B Sharpshooter -
22 LR -
Has Model B SHARPSHOOTER on one side and PAT`D.APR.25.1923 and a serial number of
5428 on bottom of the falling block action. Has V with a P in it along with 22 L.R. and address of
company: PAGE-LEWIS ARMS COMPANY CHICOPEE FALLS MASS.U.S.A. What is the
significance of the serial number. Everything I have been able to find about Page-Lewis Rifles
does not mention a serial number.
Answer: Ronald- Prior to
1968 there was no requirement for manufacturers to put serial numbers on their guns, so some
did, and some did not. However, many who did not apply “serial numbers” did mark guns with
other numbers. These are usually called assembly number or batch numbers, and were mainly
used to allow the various hand fitted parts to be matched back up after final polishing and metal
finishing (blue, etc). Sometimes the numbers were sort of for piecework accounting for the workers
involved, or quality control purposes. Other times numbers were applied to guns AFTER
manufacture, more or less “local” serial numbers, so an employer could keep track of guns checked
out to employees (maybe on a farm or ranch, or a carnival shooting gallery). Or, they might be a
number applied by some bureaucratic idiots who mistakenly believe that registering guns by
some sort of serial number will reduce crime, or an owner hopeful that applying their social
security or driver license number will help cops get stolen property back to them. John
# 14814 -
Model 88 Info and Value
ann, thorp, wi
88 lever action -
I think its 1956 could you give me a value
Answer: ann, The
Winchester model 88 was manufactured from 1955 to 1973, and was offered in several calibers
including .243, .308, 284 and .358. The Model 88 differed from other Winchester lever action
rifles in that it made use of a box magazine instead of the customary Winchester tubular type.
Because of it's box magazine, the Model 88 could fire pointed-nose cartridges which are
dangerous to load in tubular magazines for obvious reasons.
My records indicate that you are correct, the year of manufacture for your Model 88, is 1956, just
as you indicted. Model 88 rifles manufactured prior to 1964 have diamond cut (rather than
pressed basket weave pattern) checkering, no barrel band and a 22 inch barrel. Total production
for all varieties of Model 88 rifles (both pre and post 1964) is about 284,000. I have found that
Model 88 rifles are usually easy to sell because of their popularity with collectors. Values in the
blue book for 308 Model 88 Winchester rifles that were made prior to 1964 range from $350 to
over $1000 depending on condition. I often see hunting rifles that have been modified, adding
custom sights or a recoil pad are two things that seem to have been popular. If your rifle has had
any modifications, value will be in the lower part of the range.
# 14827 -
Merry Christmas From John And Marc.
It's Christmas Eve, John and Marc hope you are spending time with family and friends, laughing,
enjoying each other's company, and eating good food.
Please remember our troops who are still overseas in this weekend. Let's not forget their sacrifice
as they're away from their families. If you know someone who is serving, please give them a big
thank you and a Merry Christmas.
We would like to thank all of our visitors, customers, old friends and new friends that we have
made this year for helping us have a great 2013. We appreciate your support, business, the
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Christmas. Remember, though, if Santa forgot to bring that special gift, we just might have it!
Check all of our catalog pages to see if there is something that maybe you should have asked
for... but forgot to. Then let us know and we can do the job when you're in town, or something
festive like that.
# 14710 -
Colt Percussion Revolver- Real Or Repro?
71/2 In. -
Don't Know -
On the cylinder you can see the letters PN and what appears to be a makers mark. There are no
serial numbers anywhere on this gun. On the butt of the grip there is a number '' E03578 ''. Is my
gun a Colt or a reproduction?
Answer: Stephen- I am certain
yours is one of the Italian made replicas, because their proof mark includes the letters “PN”. The
original Colts were serial numbered on the barrel, frame and trigger guard, with the three
numbers more or less stacked on top of each other. The cylinders, grip strap and usually the
cylinder pin and barrel wedge were also numbered, but in less convenient places. John
# 14811 -
Jim Netters Rusk Texas
references indicate that the 444P is also known as the 444P Outfitter. The Outfitter was
manufactured from 1999 to 2002, it was available in .444 Marlin only and came with a 5 shot
tubular magazine and 18½ in. ported barrel. with deep cut Ballard-type 6 grove rifling. The
sights were an adjustable semi-buckhorn folding rear with ramp front. The rifle had a checkered
straight grip walnut stock and forearm and was tapped for scope mount. Approximate weight was
seven pounds. Hope this helps, Marc
# 14807 -
Winchester 94 With Scope
Johnny, Louisville, KY
Was wondering how much it is worth. It's in Mint condition and also has a wide angle scope
attached to it.
Answer: Johnny, since your rifle was
manufactured after 1964, there will not be much collector interest in it, value will be mainly as a
shooter. The scope may or may not help, it has been my experience that Model 94s sell better
without a scope. I would expect to see a rifle like the one you are describing sell at a gunshow in
the $300 range. If you are trying to sell, I would advise you to take the scope off, fill the
mounting holes with plug screws, and sell the scope separately.
# 14709 -
German Ammo Container?
I just found a round metal container with a red label that I think is German ammo. It is 2 1/4
inches across and has the following markings. "dinamit nobel aktiengesellschaft" in all capitals
and rounded at the top of the can, then "noenberg" in all capitals rounded at the bottom,"Flobert
Platz-Patronen" is under the top words and can't read the first letter but could be a Z which would
make it "Zagefjaltet" as close as I can tell that is above the bottom words. In the center is a gold
circls with an acorn in the middle and on the left side of it is the number 50 and on the right side
is a 6.
Then around the outside of the can is a red label that has "sinoxid" written several times and a
logo that is a circle (black line) with the letters "RWS" inside. I would be happy to send a picture if
you like. Can you please tell me what it is, how old it is, and if it is worth anything or dangerous?
My dad invaded Omaha Beach in WWII and I don't know if this could be something of his or not.
Thanks so much for you help !
Answer: Sir- You have a
container for "Flobert" ammunition, probably .22 caliber, and probably made sometime since
about 1930. Flobert ammunition is similar to .22 rimfire ammo, but made without the powder
charge, so just the primer charge pushes the bullet out. These were popular in Germany for
indoor target shooting, and made in a few different calibers and variations. I think these are still
available, and I cannot help date things other than the "sinoxid" is the term for non-corrosive
priming which was used since about 1929. It may be pre-WW2, or may be 1960s
Value is probably modest, $10 or less in my opinion, maybe only a dollar or two. As long as there
is no ammo in it, it is perfectly safe, and you could sell on GunBroker.com or eBay. John
# 14708 -
Browning Commemorative Set Value
Tom Glendale Arizona USA
Browning Challenger And Sa22 -
41 Of 50 -
41 of 50 engraved in gold on both barrels Approximate value ? cannot find any reference to this
set, even on the Browning website
Answer: Tom- I regret we
cannot help with that one. We just do not get into any of the commemorative type guns, and
have no feel for their values. I suspect this would be of interest mainly to a serious Browning
collector, so I would suggest you check with the Browning Collectors Association
http://www.browningcollectors.com. John Spangler
# 14806 -
Marlin 22 Value
Reggie, Warrior, Al.
20 Inches -
70 3787 -
Gold trigger, What is the value of my 22 rifle?
value depends on condition, it can range anywhere from $75 for a real beater to over $400 for A
really nice example. Marc
# 14707 -
Springfield Model 1873 Rifle
Doris, York, NE
US Springfield -
Don't Know -
Has a metal covering on the butt end, one screw missing. What can you tell me about
Answer: Doris- Your rifle is a standard Model 1884 .45-70
infantry rifle as used by many volunteer units during the Spanish American War. There is no
usage history on that specific number. That is about all I can tell you. These are fairly common
guns, and values vary depending on condition. A great site for further information, and also parts,
is http://TrapdoorCollector.com. John Spangler
# 14803 -
Argentine Police HP
Tim Edwards Imlay City, Mi. USA
It has a crest on the top if the slide by the rear sight and the same on the barrel. It has an ''E'' on
the trigger guard and it has a tiger looking symbol standing up with the initials PW under it. I do
not believe this is an FN from what I have read. Its in good excellent condition. What year is it?
and I'm looking to sell it. Approx. whet price range do they sell for? Pic`s can be
Answer: Tim, the Argentines contracted with FN to make
the High Power under license. A number of Argentine made pistols have been imported for sale
in the U.S. I would guess that this is one. It sounds as if this one was purchased by the Buenos
Aires police authority.
I do not have any experience with Argentine High Power pistols but my guess is that value will be
in the $350 to $450 range. Marc
# 14705 -
Mind Reading Detective Work Again
None Listed -
None Listed -
None Listed -
25 And 1/4 To Receiver -
Don't Know -
It says ''Nickel steel barrel especially for smokeless powder'' on barrel. I'm trying to find out what
model make my gun. All I have is a serial number. It's a repeater center fire with an octagon
barrel. It's has non brass receiver. There's no make listed. Can you help me identify this rifle I
Answer: Wendy- This is a tough one, but I will
polish up my crystal ball, have a couple of drinks and see what I can figure out.
The “non-brass receiver” narrows it down somewhat. Center fire with octagon barrel helps as
octagon barrels were seldom used except on lever action rifles, so that narrows it down a lot more,
with most of them being made by Winchester or Marlin. The barrel length of 25 ¼ inches to the
receiver would be about 26 inch barrel length when correctly measured in the bore, so this would
probably be a “rifle” and not a “carbine.” The barrel marking “Nickel steel barrel especially for
smokeless powder” is a major clue, because that was one of the selling gimmicks that Winchester
used starting in the late 1890s. I think this pretty well narrows it down to Winchester, probably a
Model 1892, 1894, 1895 lever action repeater, or the Model 1885 single shot. All of these
usually had the Winchester name on the barrel as well, and usually the caliber on the left side or
the barrel near the receiver. The Winchester name and model was almost always marked on the
upper receiver tang, behind the hammer. All of these models were in production in the late
1890s and could have had the Nickel Steel marked barrels. However, the Models 1886 and 1892
had already been made in large numbers, so a nickel steel barrel on one with a 142,000 serial
number would rule them out unless it was a later replacement. I don’t think that Model 1885
serial numbers ever got to 140,000, so let’s drop that one. The Model 1895 did not reach
140,000 until 1915, so I think that is not very likely. Based on the total numbers made, I think you
probably have a Model 1894 rifle. Since you did not find the model markings, which was usually
on the receiver tang, I am pretty sure that your rifle has had a tang sight installed, which was very
popular, but it covers up the markings.
So, I will declare your rifle to be Model 1894 Winchester. Most likely in .30-30 (.30 WCF or
Winchester Center Fire) caliber, but possibly in .32-40 or .38-55 caliber which were available with
nickel steel barrels as a special order option (adding $5.00 to the $19.50 price of the rifle.)
Was I right? John Spangler
# 14802 -
Mark, Anderson, SC, USA
12 Gauge -
Model 720 with US and Flaming Ball engraved. Cannot find any cartouches but stock appears to
be original The butt plate is cracked and the rear swivel point is missing (appears to screw into
stock). How can I get these parts?
Answer: Mark, no we do not
have the parts that you need. Recommend you check with Gun Parts Corp (the old Numrich Arms
people) at the following URL:
Gun Parts Corp has just about everything. If that doesn't work, try posting the parts that you are
looking for on our free "Wanted" page at the following URL:
Hope this helps. Marc
# 14698 -
M1816 Springfield- Real Or Repro?
John, New Hope, Pa
M1816/ 1834 Barrel -
DP on the trigger guard and under the barrel, S, LM H on the backside of the lockplate Flintlock
along with numbers on the tumbler 1,2,3,4,5, V, P in a circle and eagles head on barrel My main
question is, some of the parts seem to be too clean to be original. The parts are shinny clean. No
maker on the lockplate but on the reverse side H and LM are clear. The DP on the trigger guard
and Barrel are real clear also. Can I feel comfortable that these parts are original or reporo. I
purchased this musket from a very old reputable dealer in NJ. Any advice would be greatly
appreciated. I have pictures also that I can send if you would like. Thanks John
Answer: John- Without seeing the gun, or photos, I cannot tell you much
about it. However, since you purchased it from “a very old reputable dealer” I think that it is
probably exactly what he sold it as. If you don’t know your diamonds, you better know your
jeweler. The lack of a maker on the lockplate seems a bit odd, but it may have been removed or
never marked, especially if it were one of the guns made on a state contract, or one cobbled
together by P.S. Justice or another surplus dealer way back when. Usually the difference between
fit and finish of reproduction parts and an original is pretty obvious if you pull the lock out of the
gun. As for the details of the markings, I suggest you take good look at any reproductions you see
to see how their construction and markings might resemble or differ from yours. John
# 14801 -
Another German Officers Pistol
A.G. IN PRAG
Pistole Modell 27 I was told that is a 32mm but would like to know for sure so I can purchase the
correct ammo, and the appx. value of the pistol, it is in good shape. I was told that this was a
WW2 German officers pistol?
Answer: Ah yes, the old "German
officers pistol" story, it seems like I have heard it a million times, it is told to me along with just
abut every German military pistol that I look at or buy. It is easy for a seller to make that sort of
claim, but without documentation to back it up, it adds no value.
The CZ 27 was adopted by the Czechoslovakian armed forces in 1927 and was due to be
replaced by the Model 1938 in October of 1938. On October 1, 1938 the Germans entered the
Sudetenland of Czechoslovakia and most of the remaining Czech territory was occupied in March
of 1939. The CZ factory was taken over and Model 27 production was continued under German
supervision for German armed forces. Approximately 475,000 CZ Model 27 pistols were produced
under German supervision before hostilities in Europe ceased in May of 1945. Often uninformed
or unscrupulous people will try to tell you that every one of those pistols went to an officer in the
German military, but I don't believe it. The German name for the CZ factory was Boehmische
Waffenfabrik A.G. (Bohemian Weapons Factory Inc.) Early CZ 27's were marked "Bohmische
Waffenfabrik A.G. in Prag" this marking was dropped on later models.
Over the past few years, OldGuns.net has sold quite a few of the CZ 27 pistols, if you check our
catalog, you will probably see one or more listed there. They don't go fast, but they seem to be
steady sellers in the $550 range. Marc