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# 14057 -
Lee Enfield Mark III
24579 Or Sht L.E III -
Not Sure I Guess Standard -
24579 OR SHT L.E III -
It has a crown with g.r below it says 1940 Sht L.E III and the star of David also says England and
number 24759. and a couple other stamps with the crown and say G.B What is the price range for
this gun, and was it used in ww2 not sure if model number is the 24759 or if that's the serial number.
I am new to collecting just received this great gun from my pap looking to restore it. Thank you for
Answer: Sir- The 24579 is the serial number. The
model is “Short, Magazine Rifle, Lee Enfield, No. 1 Mark III” in .303 British caliber. Rifles of this
model were made from about 1907 up into about 1942 in England, and later in Australia, and even
into the 1960s in India and Pakistan. The No. 1 Mark III* variation omitted the magazine cutoff and
was made from about 1916 until the end of production in lieu of the predecessor model.
I suspect that yours may have been made in the UK by BSA, which is usually marked on the butt
socket near the other markings. If made elsewhere it should include the name of the maker on the
Value depends on condition, amount of original finish, stock markings, and if it was ever
“sporterized.” I have seen examples at gun shows priced from $65 up to several hundred dollars,
depending on those factors.
One of the SMLE Enfield rifles is a common starting point for a beginning collector. They are
inexpensive, fun to shoot, and represent the main battle rifle of the British Empire during WW1 and
WW2. Depending on how your interest develops, you may want to expand your collection to
include examples of the main infantry rifles of other nations during WW1 or WW2. Or, you may find
it interesting to pursue different models of the .303 Enfield, or even tracking down an example of the
No. 1 Mark III from each of the many makers. The best reference book on Lee Enfields is Ian
Skennerton’s “The Lee Enfield.” There are several dealers who specialize exclusively in Lee Enfields
and their related artifacts. John Spangler
# 14133 -
Similar To # 4864 -
.22 Short -
About 1 1/4 Inches -
NONE VISIBLE -
Came with factory made wood box custom fitted and lined with red & green floral designed cloth
covering. Screw heads have some rust. It looks very similar to model 4864 shown on page 60 listed
in Burgsmuller`s catalog of 1910 I purchased from Amazon.com. Approximate value. source for
Answer: References indicate that Burgsmuller is a name
used by Regent of Germany. The German gun is supposed to be a small revolver that resembles
the Colt Police Positive. These were sold in the 1955 to 1970 period by Karl Burgsmuller of
Kreiensen. The name has also been used on an inexpensive Spanish-made 'Eibar' type automatic.
No matter which one you have, there is not much collector interest in this kind of pistol, values will
be modest. Marc
# 14132 -
Trigger Shoe On An M1914
Robert Holland / Dallas,N C
The trigger has a wide (1/2'') add on finger pull with 2 allen set screws. Is this something that has
been added or did it come from Norway this way. The mfg. year is 1942, or that number is stamped
on right side of slide. Thanks
Answer: Robert -the pistol did not
come from the factory that way. I am 98% sure that the item you are asking about is a `trigger
shoe` that was added by some former owner. Marc
# 14056 -
Ross Rifle Calibers
Jim, Hawk Hills, Alberta, Canada
I purchased a Ross 303 at a farm auction. At that same auction was a sister gun to the one I
bought. A Ross in 270 caliber. I have gone through all of my gun books and done research on the
web but can fins no mention of a Ross rifle in 270 caliber. My question is, do you know anything
Ross rifles in 270. I am thinking of making an offer to the fellow who won the bid on this rifle. I would
like to own both rifles as the were both owned by the same neighbor. I would like to know anything
you may be able to tell me about this rifle, but the present value is of special interest to me. I
would also like to know if this 270 is 270 WCF or is it something unique to Ross as was the 280
Ross. I do know that Ross produced rifles in 303 British and 280 Ross.
Answer: Jim- The Ross Rifle Company of Quebec, Canada made a number of
different rifles. Best known are some of his military rifles used by the Canadians (and 20,000 during
WW1 by the U.S. Army), which were all in .303 British caliber.
Also well known are his sporting rifles made in .280 Ross caliber, a rimmed cartridge based on the
.303 British case. A very few rifles were made in .256 Mannlicher, .370 Express and .35
Winchester, but I cannot find any mention of any Ross rifles made in .270 caliber, nor of a .270
Ross cartridge. The Ross company ended operations during or shortly after World War 1.
The .270 Winchester cartridge was introduced in 1925 for the Winchester Model 54 rifle, so it is
almost certain that the Ross rifle is one that was later converted to the excellent .270 caliber by an
owner, not factory work.
In my opinion a Ross converted to .270 caliber might be a nice shooter, but a lousy investment.
# 14055 -
International Flare Signal Co. Flare Gun
Phil, Henderson, NV
International Flare Signal Co -
PT/Flare Pistol -
1.5 Inch Diameter -
This flare pistol is brass with a steel barrel. It has Mar 1943 stamped on it. Also, there is a 1/4''
thick rope hooked to it for hanging in the cabin of the boat (I assume). What would this flare gun be
Answer: Phil- The 37mm flare gun made by International
Flare Signal Company of Tippecanoe City, Ohio, was made during WW2, but apparently only for use
by merchant marine use, not Navy contracts. They are a robust design, and were packed in a
“Number 52 Marine Distress Signal Kit” often placed in lifeboats. The rope lanyard was to be
attached to the shooter or the boat, so the gun would not be lost overboard. The kit was packed in
a metal container with the pistol and 12 red parachute flares.
As far as values, I usually see flare guns offered around $150-250 from most of the makers. We
really need a good book, or even website, about flare guns, but I do not know of any yet. John
# 14131 -
Secert Service Special
Do Not Know -
Do Not Know -
Do Not Know ....... -
About 4 Or 5 -
Is blue top break 5 shot top of barrel says FOR 38 SMITH WESSON CTGS on side says SECERT
SERVICE SPECIAL has 4 diamond crystals on handle grip Would like to know the value of it and
what kind of gun it is was told it was a SMITH WESSON then some one else told me it was a OWL
would like to know year also...... if you could tell me make model caliber from what I have told you
that would be great..........
Answer: Ernie - I am afraid that your
revolver is not a Smith & Wesson, the Smith & Wesson markings only indicate the cartridge that
the revolver is chambered for. Secret Service Special is a sales or trade name that was used by
Chicago gun-dealer Fred Biffard circa 1890-1910 on revolvers made for them by Iver Johnson
and the Meriden Firearms Company. There is not much collector interest in this type of gun and
values are modest. I would expect to see one being offered for sale at a gunshow in the $50 to $75
# 14052 -
German Drilling Value
Ron ,Mineral Wells, W.V.
Franz Kettner -
3 Barrel -Kohn-Suhl -Kugel -
9.3 X 74 X 2 Over 16 Ga. -
24 In. -
Silver, deep engraving .Bone trigger guard . Leopold Flip on , flip off scope also open sights ,2
triggers ,leather shoulder strap .High grade walnut stock . I was just wondering if you can give me an
idea of its worth . Thank you
Answer: Ron- Franz Kettner
operated in Suhl, circa 1891-1939, and has a reputation for making high quality sporting arms,
especially double barrel and multi barrel shotguns or combination arms with both rifle and shotgun
barrels. The three barrel guns are called “ “drillings” (“dri” being Kraut for “three”). Most of the three
barrel guns had two shotgun barrels over a rifle barrel, but if a buyer wanted two rifle barrels over a
shotgun barrel, Franz would be happy to make it. (9.3 x 74mm Rimmed was a very popular rifle
cartridge for combination guns, although not easy to find for shooting.
Value is pretty much an individual decision between you and a buyer. Realistically, it will probably
be a tiny fraction of what it would cost to get a similar gun made today. The buyer who likes the
caliber, looks and feel, might possibly pay several thousand dollars. The casual collector who thinks
it is a "neat gun" and pretty enough that his wife won't complain too much might reluctantly go
$1,000 or so. They are really beautiful examples of the gun makers’ art, but just don’t bring a lot of
money. John Spangler
# 14106 -
MAB Model F
Teri, Fern Park, Florida
Pistolft Automatique Brevete Model F -
4 Inches -
What can you tell me about this gun? Also, I was wondering if you knew where I could purchase a
clip for it.
Answer: Peter, Manufacture d'Armes de Bayonne
(MAB) began business in 1921. From 1940 to 1944 the factory was under German supervision and
control. MAB pistols were produced for German military and police use and were marked with the
usual German acceptance stamps. After the war, production of commercial pistols was resumed.
The MAB model F was introduced in 1950, it was basically the same design as the earlier Mode B
except that it had an open-ended slide which could be fitted with barrels of lengths varying from 2.65
to 7.25 inches. Target sights of different degrees of quality, accuracy and complexity could be
ordered to suit the purchaser's needs. Model F grips are extremely well raked, this made the pistol
easy to point naturally. It is said that the Model F was a first-class target automatic when fitted with
one of the longer barrels available at a reasonable price.
A replacement magazine for your pistol may be hard to find, I recommend that you check with Gun
Parts Corp (the old Numrich Arms people) at the following URL:
If that doesn't work, try posting it on our free "Wanted" page at the following URL:
Good Luck - Marc
# 14116 -
Charles Roanoke Rapids, NC
On one side of barrel Pat. date April,23 1878 and on other side has name Cadet. Just wanted to
know what kind it is. How much is it worth. It is a 7 shot revolver with a octagon shape
Answer: Charles, I checked Several reference books
including Flaydermans and Pistols of the world. The only revolver that I was able to find that bore
the model name `Cadet` was manufactured by Iver Johnson. The Iver Johnson Cadet was a small,
inexpensive solid-frame revolver with a 2.5in barrel, fixed sights, round butt and no ejector. The Iver
Johnson Cadet Cadet model was offered in several configurations:
Eight-shot chambered for 22LR
Eight-shot chambered for .22WMR
Five-shot chambered for 32
Five-shot chambered for 38
None of these configurations match your revolver which you indicate has a seven shot cylinder.
My guess is that you have an inexpensive `Suicide Special`. These were very cheaply made guns
of poor quality, made circa 1870 to the early 1900s. As the name implies that they were
sufficiently durable and accurate for a single short range shot, or possibly would blow up if fired at
all. Values for this kind of revolver is modest, they usually sell in the $100 or less range. Marc
# 14050 -
Ammunition For .69 Caliber Musket
Peter Houston TX
Harpers Ferry Reproduction -
Percussion Musket -
Stainless Steel -
CAN NOT FIND IT -
there is a VP on the barrel apart from that is states ''Harper's Ferry 1845'' I have purchased some
600 Ball ammo but I do not know how much powder to put into a charge
Answer: Peter- Your best bet would be to consult with people who actually
shoot these instead of collectors like us. A quick Google check shows that some shooters use as
little as 70 grains of powder and others as much as 110 grains. I do not have a period ordnance
manual or Dean Thomas’ definitive study of Civil War ammunition “Round Ball to Rimfire” handy, but
they would probably provide the “official” answer.
However, the quality of black powder varies greatly, and the grain size (Fg, Ffg, Fffg or Ffffg) also
need to be considered since they affect the rate of burning. Also, the “windage” or gap between the
ball diameter and the bore diameter will impact the pressure generated in the barrel when fired.
And, if you are using a black powder substitute (Pyrodex, etc) instead of “real” black powder
remember that they are measured by volume, not weight.
Therefore, we decline to try to tell you exactly what powder or charge to use. Some idiot may
decide that dirty old black powder is too messy, and try to dump an equal charge of smokeless
powder into a muzzle loader, and the resulting explosion of the gun would probably make the
shooter a Darwin Award winner. John Spangler
# 14115 -
Model 1892 Serial Number Location
Matt, Conyers GA
Where is the serial number located?
Answer: Matt, over one
million Winchester Model 1892 rifles were manufactured between 1892 and 1941, the model was
first listed in the July 1892 Winchester catalog and factory records indicate that the first delivery to
warehouse stock was made on May 3, 1892. The Model 1892 was devised as a companion rifle that
would chamber popular center fire handgun calibers 44-40, 38-40, and 32-20. The 25-20 chambering
was developed especially for this model and was added in August 1895. The 1892 was the same
basic design as the earlier Model 1886 with a slightly simplified mechanism and some component
parts scaled down in size to handle the smaller handgun calibers.
Your Winchester's serial number should be stamped on the front edge of the bottom of the receiver
close to where it meets up with the wood of the front handguard.
# 14047 -
Krag Rifle History
C J, Katy, Texas
Model 1898 -
30/40 Krag -
21 In. -
The receiver is marked ''U.S.'', and below that ''Springfield Armory''. I'm am mainly interested in date
of manufacture and where I might go to find out the service history and history after service. This rifle
was ''sporterized'' after military service.
Answer: CJ- There is no
documented history available on that serial number. However, there are a mix of Model 1898 rifles
and Model 1899 carbines overlapping in that range. Check the marking very carefully to see if it is
1898 or 1899. If the latter, it may be a carbine, not a cut down rifle.
J.L. Galef And Son -
On left side of sun on barrel is Galef and son with the Cal. and serial number. But it also has an
English style cursive T with a circle around it on the left, On the right side on the hammer is a floral
pattern I have looked all over the internet looking for J.L. Galef and son 45 Cal. Pistol Muzzle loader
and I can not find anything. I have no clue when this was made, where it was made, how much it is
worth. It was given to me by a friend that just wanted to get rid of things and also had no clue about
it. It has one hammer on the right side. The stock is wooden and there are screws holding it
together it has a pin further up on the barrel where the stock meets it that lets you pull the barrel out
to clean it. Can someone help me out and let me know what I have here? To me it looks like a
pirate gun. I would just like to know something about it. Thank you
Answer: Lacie- J.L. Galef & Sons operated in New York from the 1920s well
into the 1980s as an importer and distributor. They seem to have been involved mainly in less
expensive arms, not the exotic high end pieces, but not total junk either. The modern muzzle loader
fad was in vogue starting in the 1960s, so I think your pistol probably dates from around that period.
There is not really any collector interest in these, but shooters may like them, especially as an
inexpensive gun for a beginner, or perhaps as a decorative item. Value is probably whatever you
can get for it, but set your expectations in the under $100 range. John
# 14127 -
Need Replacement Part
Darrin, Prudenville, MI
Ranger Model 35 -
Don't Know -
Ranger Model 35, .22 short, long or long rifle Recently I have received my grandfathers old rifle from
his estate, the rifle itself is still on good shape but the bolt is in very poor shape. The bolt had fallen
through the floor boards twenty some years ago and had been lost until the family cleaned up after
grandpa passed. I have searched the internet for parts but can not find a parts dealer for this
particular rifle. To my knowledge it was manufactured by Stevens Arms and sold under the Sears
Roebuck and Company name between the years 1930 and 1948. Imprinted on the barrel is Ranger
Model 35, .22 short, long or long rifle, in my searching on the internet I found that the model number
through Stevens Arms was Stevens Model 66A. Finding the bolt to restore his old rifle is very
important to me, because this is the only thing I have of my grandpa, and I never got to see him
before he passed due to me being in the military at the time. Any information that can be given to
aid me in locating a replacement or compatible bolt would be greatly appreciated.
Answer: Darrin, thanks for your service. It looks like you have done your
homework and you know what kind of bolt to look for. It may be difficult to find a replacement bolt
for your rifle, you could start by checking with Gun Parts Corp (the old Numrich Arms people) at the
Gun Parts Corp has allot of parts for old guns. If that doesn't work, try posting it on our free
"Wanted" page at the following URL:
You can also try posting an add in online classifieds like Craig`s list. A friend of mine found a bolt
for a Marlin 22 by posting a free add in a local online list (KSL.com). Good luck -
Smith & Wesson -
45 Colt -
6 1/2 '' -
Barrel is stamped with British proof marks, A crown over BNP,455'',760#,under that is6 TONS PER
sq.''. Stamped on left side plate, SS3, various other British proofs on cylinder and left side of frame. I
would like to know the year of manufacture. The cylinder has been reamed out to 45 Colt. Do you
think that this gun was issued to the British military? Thank you.
Answer: George, my records indicate that the month and year of manufacture
for serial number 13827 is January 1918. Because of the need to expand the U.S. Army when we
entered World War I, and shortage of the automatic pistol, U.S. Model 1911, the military contracted
with Colt and S&W to provide revolvers chambered for the rimless 45 ACP cartridge. Since the
cartridges were rimless, they had to be loaded with a "half moon" clip which held three rounds. The
`S` marking that you mention, leads me to believe that your revolver is likely a pistol made for the
U.S. military, if the marking has an eagle head above the letters it was accepted by the U.S.
In 1940 after the disaster at Dunkirk the U.S sent many 1917 revolvers back to England. Some were
re chambered for the 455 Ely cartridge which was the standard British service cartridge. The
`BNP,455` proof mark would indicate that this was done to your revolver. S&W and Colt also sold
some revolvers to the British that were not converted.
The crown over BNP,455 markings are British proofs applied by the British government to firearms
that were to be exported. British export firearms were proof fired and stamped with the pressure
generated by the proof cartridge. These markings indicate that your revolver was in England and was
it exported sometime after the end of World War II. Marc
# 14044 -
Peabody 1862 Patent Rifle
Peabody Patent made in 1862 by Providence Tool Company Providence RI This rifle appears to be
civil war vintage. Curious of its value
Answer: Ken- Peabody
rifles are an interesting design. Although patented in 1862 noe were actually used in the Civil War,
with production actually beginning around 1866 with first sales to Canada. Those rifles used the
same .50-60 caliber rimfire cartridge used in the scarce Joslyn rifles made in 1865 at Springfield
Armory, the first metallic cartridge rifles made at Springfield.
The Peabody design features a falling block action, operated by a lever, with the front of the block
tipping down for loading and extraction, very similar to the Martini actions. Unlike the Martini, the
Peabody used the traditional side mounted lock mechanism with an external hammer. It was a
pretty good design, but had only modest sales, with a total of about 112,000 made circa 1866-1871.
Some of the users included small number with the militias of Massachusetts, Connecticut and
South Carolina, and (again, in limited numbers) by the Armies in Canada, Switzerland, Romania,
and Spain. These are made in many different calibers, and had minor differences in sights and
fittings, so it takes a bit of study to tell exactly which model you have. The best reference on
Peabody rifles is an out of print book by Ed Hull “Providence Tool Company Military Arms.”
However, there is an excellent resource on line by Keith Doyan at
As far as value, the demand on these is weak and varies greatly with caliber, condition and exact
model. Figure a few hundred dollars at the low end, and maybe $800-1500 at the top end. John
# 14107 -
Colt Parts Gun?
Brian, Chatham, IL, USA
5 Inch -
7867 -MR -
VP in a triangle on the left side of the trigger housing, 7267718 N M at the end of the barrel,
Government Model COLT AUTOMATIC CALIBER .45 on the left side of the slide, COLT`S MFG.
CO.HARTFOD CT. USA Right side of the slide. Gold Medallion on the walnut grips. Is this a
government rebuild ?? Ser # says its a Gold Cup National Match Super 38 but its a 45 ?? Is it a
standard conversion model?? What would it be worth in fair to good condition ??
Answer: Brian, Wilson's Colt`s serial number book indicates that `Super 38
Model Including Super Match 38` serial numbers did not have any letters in them until 1969. They
started at 1 in 1929 and ended at 202188 in 1968. In 1969 and 1970 the serial numbers for this
model started with the letters `CS`. Wilson's book does not show any production of this model after
1970. Serial numbers for Gold Cup National Match pistols in .38 all end with `NMR`. Serial
numbers for Gold Cup National Match pistols in .45 manufactured between 1957 and 1970 (10 -
37025) all have an `NM` suffix. I could not find any serial numbers listed in the book for 1911/A1
pistols that end with `MR`.
The Colt`s `Verified Proof` marking on the left side trigger guard does indicate that the frame was
manufactured by Colt but none of the markings that you have provided would indicate that your pistol
is a government rebuild. The serial number on the frame is different than the number on the barrel
so my best guess is that the lower half and the upper half of the pistol were matched up sometime
in the past after the pistol left Colt`s factory, it is impossible to guess how or why. If the pistol is a
parts gun, most collectors will not be interested in it, value will be as a shooter.
Remington Arms -
Rolling Block -
20 In Maybe Less -
U.S. CAVALRY STAMPED ON
OK I came across an old Remington Arms saddle rifle. History on it says it dates back to Custer's
Last Stand and it was passed down from family to family from Col. Hyde from Custer's Last Stand
(Actually taken from there). Some nicks and dings but in above average condition. Has U.S.
Cavalry stamped on Stock but I can't find a serial number. It does say Patented OCT 22nd 1807 or
1887. My question how can I find out more about this rifle?
Answer: Charles- A quick history refresher: General George A. Custer’s
tactical errors led to his defeat at the Little Big Horn on June 25, 1876. The 7mm caliber cartridge
used in Remington rolling block rifles was the 7mm Spanish Mauser, which was invented by Mauser
in 1892 or 1893.
I have no idea who Colonel Hyde might have been. But, I do know that no branch of the U.S.
military ever used 7mm Remington rolling block rifles. While the basic rolling block action had been
invented before the end of the Civil War, and a few in .50 caliber were used by the U.S. Army on an
experimental basis circa 1872-1873. None of these were serial numbered. I also know that it was
against regulations to place unit markings on U.S. military arms, but it was occasionally done.
Usually, it was the same number/letter/number pattern used on other equipment, indicating the
regiment, company and soldier number of an individual it was assigned to. An exception seems to
be the 10th U.S. Cavalry which did mark some arms “10th CAV”. Any other marking I would
consider to be highly suspect.
Bottom line is that here we have a gun in a caliber not invented until 15 years after Little Big Horn
with suspect markings, attributed to an officer who may or may not have ever existed, or if real, may
or may not have had any connection to the Little Big Horn. Despite what the seller might tell you, I
would not purchase this gun at any price. John Spangler