.22 Long Rifle -
In 1975 I purchased a Rossi Gallery .22 Long Rifle pump. The receiver is stainless steel/satin
nickel in color. The barrel and all other parts are a deep blue. In has a high gloss beautiful walnut
stock and forend. I have never seen another Gallery exactly like it either in print or at numerous
gun shows. Being a Rossi I know the value is not that great I would just like to know if it is
something rare in a Gallery.
Answer: Jerry, the blue book lists a
Rossi Model 62 SA Stainless. They indicate that this model is similar to regular model, except is
stainless steel and that it was imported 1986 only. Values for the Model 62 SA Stainless top out at
I have a Whitneyville armory, .22 cal. single action revolver. It's missing the cylinder, but the trigger
works perfectly. What is it worth? Anything? How old is it? Can I get a cylinder for it? Thank
Answer: Sir- These date to about 1870-1900. I would
expect to find ones matching your description offered at a gun show at prices around $25 or so, and
the owner delighted to sell it at any price. About the only source of parts it to find a complete gun
and strip it, or get very luck digging in a junk box, and knowing exactly what you are looking for. A
complete, working one might go for $50-150 depending on condition. Sorry! John
# 13458 -
USMC Use Of M1917 "Enfield" Rifles
Wes this rifle ever issues to the US Marine Corps? I saw your posts regarding the ''USMC'' marking
but wondered about the broader issue as to whether the Marines ever were issued this weapon.
Many thanks. Col. J.S. Shi, USMC Ret.
Thank you for your service to our country.
As far as I know, the Marines never used the M1917 rifles. The Corp was relatively small during
WW1 and apparently was able to obtain sufficient M1903 rifles. During the slow build up to WW2,
again the Marines seem to have been able to get enough M1903s, and stuck with them at least into
the Guadalcanal campaign when M1 Garand production reached levels sufficient to arm the Marines
as well as the Army. I do not recall ever seeing a Marine in a photo with a M1917 Enfield, nor any
reference to one in any of the literature. John Thomason's stirring fact/fiction accounts never raised
the subject. Nor do I recall mention in "Marine from Manatee", or in COL Rankin's "Small Arms of
the Sea Services." I believe that many of the M1903s used by the Marines came from Navy
inventory, such as the rifles freed up by the switch to the wooden "USN Dummy Training rifle Mark I"
during WW2 for use in Navy boot camps. John Spangler
# 13527 -
Police Positive DOM
Chad, Houston Texas
Police Positive -
6 Inch -
I recently inherited a revolver that once belonged to my great-grandfather. He was born in 1900 and
died in 1923. Can you tell me what year this revolver was manufactured?
Answer: Chad, your revolver is what collectors call a Police Positive (First
Issue). This model was manufactured from 1907 to 1927 and could be ordered with 2.5, 4, 5, or 6
inch barrels in .32 Colt, .32 New Police, .38 New Police, or .38 S&W calibers. Revolvers
manufactured before 1923 came standard with hard rubber grips, checkered walnut grips became
standard in 1924. My references indicate that your revolver was manufactured in 1914. Police
Positive (First Issue) values in the blue book range from about $200 to over $450 depending on
Appears military. How do I find the history of this gun? It has Essex arms Corp serial number 1445
on the frame but Remington Rand on the slide with no serial number? Thanks! Matt.
Answer: Matt, the short answer is you don't. The best that I can tell you is that
you have a parts gun with a military slide. Your interest in the history is not unusual, we get
requests all the time asking if the history of a military gun can be determined. In almost all cases
we can only determine who made the gun and what year it was made. After that there are no
records. The German Army during World War I often marked the division and regiment on their
pistols and rifles, and there are histories of some of these units. The U.S. did not do so. As you
may already know Essex Arms makes after market frames for the Model 1911A1 pistol.
# 13451 -
Federal Gas Billy Club
FEDERAL LABORATORIES 1925 Tear
Don't Know -
I received this item from my Grandfather before he passed away. I was wondering if anyone could
tell me its value. It is a tear gas billy club. Federal Laboratories Circa 1925 Billy Club. It is marked
federal laboratories. Pittsburgh PA. U.S.A. Pat Sept. 15,1925, Dec.15,1925, Dec. 29,1925 . It is in
very good condition. The switch works, it cocks and fires. The leather strap is in very good condition.
Any help would be appreciated Ü
Answer: Julie- The "gas billy"
is a neat item, but I am not sure if it is an item the BATF requires to be registered or if it is
considered "non-gun" or treated like any regular gun. Gut feeling is that a legal one would bring
about $100-400 depending on condition. There are a small number of collectors of gas guns and
similar items, and this would also cross over into the field of law enforcement collections, but I don't
know what those guys think about prices. Hope that helps. .
You can call BATF and ask about the legal status. They may say you don't need anything, or
tell you that you are a felon if you have it in your possession. Whatever they say, (especially if they
say it IS legal) try to get it in writing to show to the next BATF agent who may think the opposite
and want to throw you in jail. John Spangler
# 13444 -
Remington .22 Derringer
Frank, San Diego, CA
The handle looks like ivory and the rest of the gun is nickel plated. I am in the military and I've had
this gun for about 10 years and I was told by a friend that knows guns that it is worth some money.
My question was how to I go about selling this and how much is it worth? Thanks for your help.
Answer: Frank- Wish we could help on that one, but
Remington made a number of different types of derringers, and values vary according to the model.
We would need to see some photos on this one to be sure we are talking about the right model.
# 13520 -
T-14 Nambu Date And Value
Terry, Estherville, Iowa USA
Type 14 -
4'' Or So -
7.1 near the grips, Cannonballs stacked (made in Tokyo?), another small emblem near the grips,
possibly made in the late 20's or early 30's, there are markings on the left side with several shapes
like a cross etc., The grips are in excellent condition as well as the bluing. The leather holster is in
very good condition. I have two magazines but the serial numbers are different. No rust or dings.
All the other parts have the same serial number. The holster has a leather strap with a hole in it that
fits over a post to secure it. I would like to know the age and value of this weapon.
Answer: Terry, Japanese pistols were dated by the reign
of the emperor. The Type 14 was adopted by the Japanese Military in the 14th and last year of the
reign of Emperor Taisho, or 1926. The dates were always stamped with the year first and the month
second so your pistol would be dated to January 1933. The serial number (or the last part of the
number) was also stamped on the bolt, locking block and firing pin (you have to take it apart to see
most of these) and other small parts including the magazine. Collectors of Japanese weapons pay
more for early Type 14's than for the ones made during World War II. Value can range from two or
three hundred to over seven hundred depending on condition.
# 13518 -
Daniel, Mount Morris, MI
I am trying to find out the value of this gun, and where I can find ammunition for it if I chose to keep
Answer: Daniel, the blue book lists several models of Star
Super pistols including the Super A, Super B, Super S, Super SI, Super SM and the Super Target
Model. Values for most of these pistols except for the Super Target Model tops out in the $300 to
$400 range. Super Target Model values go as high as $1200. Some Super models are chambered
for 9MM Largo and others are chambered for regular 9mm Parabellum. I suggest that you take your
firearm to a gunsmith to determine the proper type of ammunition for your pistol.
# 13442 -
Zulu Shotgun Safe To Use?
Andy, Rio vista, CA
12 Ga Conversion -
182DD INSIDE OF BREECH -
L over LG over A inside oval on left side of barrel base, M on base of right side, ZULU on top of barrel
in script This appears to be an old, but functioning shotgun. Is it safe to fire modern shotgun shells
Answer: Andy- It is absolutely NOT SAFE TO SHOT A
# 13431 -
Rook Rifle (?)
Kennon, Trinity, AL
William Golden -
? Rook Rifle ? -
Old Sticker Says .32 Long Colt -
367 OR 8029 -
''William Golden, 12 Cross Church St., Huddersfield'' in shield-like emblem on right side of receiver.
Has three worn proof marks of which one appears to be a ''Birmingham provisional proof for
barrels'', and 2 appear to be ''Birmingham definitive black powder proof for shotguns'' (based on Blue
Book 27). What the heck is it? It has a top break action like a shotgun, but a thick walled barrel
with a rifled bore. And why would it have shotgun proof marks? It also has a second flip up sight
which is only very slightly higher than the fixed sight. The top of the barrel is flat with an engraved
Answer: Kennon- We know almost nothing
about "rook rifles" (as will soon be evident). I think these are basically small caliber rifles intended
for indoor target use or for shooting garden pests or very small game at short ranges. Most seem to
be around .30 to .32 caliber, and they seem to be peculiar to the British Commonwealth nations,
most especially Australia. The oddball ammo they used seems to be about impossible to find, so
when these hit the surplus market in the 1960s, many were converted to take some readily available
type of ammunition, or stripped down to use the action for a custom rifle project. Now that our
ignorance has been confirmed, we will not try to make up anything additional. John
# 13511 -
Daniel, Springfield Ct'r, NY,USA
C Olympic -
.22 Long -
24 Inches -
There is no serial number stamped on any part of the metal. There is a patent stamped April 25,
1923. There is a tiny circle stamped on both the barrel and side plate holding the firing mechanism
that has four equidistant lines sticking out from the circle. What is the value of this
Answer: Daniel, Page-Lewis Arms Company started
business in 1921 with about 150 workers. The Page-Lewis factory was located in manufacturing
facilities that were previously used by the automobile company, Stevens Duryea. The first shipment
of Page-Lewis rifles left the factory in July of 1921.
Page-Lewis introduced the Model A Target Rifle, the Model B Sharpshooter, and the Model C
Olympic Rifle in 1921. All three rifles shared the same type of under lever, falling block action which
was fabricated from steel plate, and housed the lockwork inside the breechblock. A single coil
spring was used to drive both the hammer and the trigger and the butt was attached by a large
longitudinal bolt. Rifles could be dissembled by use of a take-down bolt which lay beneath the frame
ahead of the trigger guard.
The Model C Olympic was manufactured from 1921 to 1926, it had a 24 inch barrel, folding aperture
sight on the tang and a combination bead-and-globe/blade front sight. The Model C forearm was
slightly longer and fuller than the A or B. Model C barrel markings read: PAGE-LEWIS ARMS
COMPANY CHICOPEE FALLS, MASS. U.S.A. .22 L.R. Markings on left side of the frame read:
MODEL C OLYMPIC, and markings on right side of frame read: PAT. APL'D FOR.
My blue book does not have a listing for Page-Lewis so it is a little more difficult than usual to give
you a value for your rifle. I checked some of the bigger auctions sites on the internet and average
value for the Page-Lewis models that were listed seems to be about $250.
# 13510 -
Brad, Fargo, ND, USA
On the right side of the frame reads, ''911A1 U.S. Army''; right side front edge of trigger guard
appears to have a two small 0's one on top of the other, with the top 0 being cut off (kind of like a U).
Left side receiver (top assembly) has the patent dates (that should make it a 1911A1), Colt
manufacturer info and the rampant colt. I cannot find ''US government property'' anywhere on this
gun. This gun was re-blued at some point. Is this an authentic 1911a1? I got it from my Dad who
died a few years back. He thought it was authentic. If authentic, is it valuable?
Answer: Brad, the serial number you provided is for a frame (the lower part of
the gun), it was made in 1918 so your pistol is a 1911, not a 1911A1. The fact that there is not a C
in front of the serial number means the frame was made for the U.S. military, not for commercial
sales. The frame did have "U.S. Property" stamped on the left front at one time. Many people
removed this for fear of being arrested for being in possession of Government property. I cannot
determine whether the slide matches the pistol but my guess is that it does not. If the pistol has
been reblued parts may have been swapped with other pistols. Value for re-blued 1911/1911A1
parts guns is in the $300 - $400 range. Marc
# 13429 -
Springfield Armory M1D Sniper Rifle
Springfield Armory -
This rifle has an X just below the serial # in the middle. On the side of the barrel SA 07312555 1 53
MD34 underneath the barrel there is the letter P. On the stock just behind the trigger guard is C and
underneath is 111 I bought this gun in 1994. I don't know anything about it where it came from or
even if it is original. I was wondering if there is anything you could tell me about this
Answer: Sir- The serial number confirms your rifle was
made by the commercial firm in Geneseo, IL, which cleverly grabbed rights to the "Springfield
Armory" name when the government arsenal was closed in the 1960s. "Real" Springfield
Massachusetts military serial numbers only go to the low 6 million range. I suspect that nearly all
the other parts are genuine military surplus M1 Garand parts, including the barrel which has the
correct drawing number and date for a M1D sniper rifle. At one time all parts but receivers were in
abundant supply, and while rifles built on commercial receivers have much lower collector value,
they are still usually good shooters, or may be worth a lot for parts- in this case it would be a
profitable operation to replace the M1D barrel and scope assembly with a standard service grade
newly made barrel, and clear a couple hundred dollars in a few days and still have a shooter left
over. John Spangler
# 13484 -
F.B. Radom -
According to some info I've read, the frames of the first 3000 of these handguns were made from a
''special alloy, what alloy I do not know. I've also read contradictory references to this. It appears to
be one of the first true Polish examples of this weapon and is in very good shape. No dings or
scratches, bluing is aged but still nice with very little wear. It has the original magazine but no
holster. I've fired a couple hundred rounds through it and it shoots with amazing accuracy. There's
lots of little symbols on all the different parts and has the de-cocker, slot in the grip and loop for a
lanyard. The grips are intact with F.B. on one side and VIS on the other. My Dad, a WWII vet,
brought it home after the war and gave it to be back in 1978. I had put it away and re-discovered it a
few months ago. Thanks! John Any insight as to the value or other info would be
Answer: John, from your description you have
Polish designed pistol which was the standard side arm of their arm until the German Wehrmacht
over ran them in September 1939. The Germans issued captured pistols to their own troops and
also kept the model in production for their own troops. Those pistols made for the Polish arm
command much higher prices than those made specifically for the German military. If your pistol
has slot milled into the back strap it will also be worth more.
# 13426 -
Tom, Ottawa, On, Canada
Kirkland's Guns -
ELG* (star) Crown R Kirkland's Guns 450 I inherited this percussion cap musket but I can't find
any information on it. I'm not sure if Kirkland's Guns is the manufacturer or a military unit. Any
information on this musket you could provide would be appreciated.
Answer: Tom- The ELG marking is a Belgian proof mark, so we know it was
made in Belgium. I have never heard of Kirklands Guns. It is probably the name of the retailer,
possibly Canadian. There is a very remote chance it may relate to Turner Kirkland, founder of Dixie
Gun Works and one of the people who created the black powder replica firearm industry. However, I
would not bet a loony dollar on that. John Spangler
# 13422 -
Bobby, Atlanta, Ga
My 90 year old grandfather recently gave me a 9mm gun he brought home from Germany after
WWII. He told me that he took this gun from a German officer upon his surrender. Having always
been very interested in WWII, I want to find out all I can about this gun. It looks like a Walther P38.
However, on the left side of the gun on the slide is P35, ac 43 and 761b. The number 761b also
appears in two other places - on the front of the gun underneath the barrel and beneath the barrel
catch lever, just above the trigger. Here the Eagle/359 proof appears beside it. The Eagle/359
symbol also appears on the bottom side of the barrel catch lever. On the right side of the slide the
Eagle/359 proof symbol appears again with two other markings, however I cannot make out what
they are. The holster for the gun is brown leather with the additional magazine holder. Inside the
holster is stamped bnz 1944 and p35(b). There is a small emblem of some sort above this stamp,
but it is blurred and unidentifiable. In the magazine are the original 8 bullets that were in the gun.
The marking on the end of each of them is W.R.A.CO. 9 m/m LUGER This gun has black
plastic hand grips and the finish on it is a nickel. I asked my grandfather if he had this gun
refinished after he came home because I know it was a popular thing to do at the time. Also, I did
not think guns manufactured at this time were made with this finish. In a very solemn voice he told
me the gun was exactly as it was when the officer handed it to him. He brought it back home with
him and put it in a safe so that it would never hurt anyone again. It had never been fired or touched
by anyone else until he gave it to me, 63 years later. He showed me the markings left by the
bullets on inside of the gun where the bullet moves from the chamber barrel. If the gun had been
recast wouldn't all of these marks have been gone? Also, I am confused by the P35 on the slide.
Can you please help me?
Answer: Abbie, it is hard to say what
you have without seeing your pistol. All of the markings that you describe except for ``P35`` are
consistent with the markings that should be on a Walther P38. I can tell you that the Winchester
Repeating Arms Company (WRA) was not manufacturing ammunition for the German Army in 1944-
45, so there is a problem with your grandfather's memory of the events associated with the capture
of this pistol.
I think that the pistol is undoubtedly a P38 made by the Walther Company in 1943. You have also
determined that the serial number on the slide matches the serial number on the barrel and the
frame which is correct for a P38. As to the nickel finish, if you go to the P38 Forum on the web you
will find that every expert on that site agrees on one thing. No P38 ever left the Walther factory with
a nickel finish, and the German army never approved any P38's to be finished with nickel. All nickel
plating of P38's occurred after the war.
I'm not sure where the P35 comes from, possibly the P38 marking on your pistol was changed at
the time that it was nickel plated so that it looks like P35 instead of P38 now.
# 13417 -
Remington 1897 7mm Rolling Block Rifle
Jerald, Astoria OR
This rifle has the following on the strap behind the hammer ''Remington Arms Company Ilion NY, At
May 31 1864, May 7th, June11th, Nov 12th Dec 2nd 1872,Dec 31st 1872, Sept 9th 1873, Jan 12th
March 18th 1874. There are two bands the forward has a sling ring. There is a U stamped into the
forward band. and 7 M-M S M on the top of the barrel forward of the rear sight. It has a latter A and T
carved into the stock (probably long after production) When was this rifle made? Is it worth
anything? It was given to me by a relative who told me a story about how this type rifle was used in
the old west during the Indian Wars. Did this rifle come from that period? Thank you
Answer: Jerald- First let me put in a plug for your home town of Astoria,
Oregon. It is a neat place, but everyone going anywhere near there MUST stop at the Columbia
River Maritime Museum. I visit a LOT of museums and this one is superb! .
Your rifle is a Model 1897 (or Model 5) Rolling Block Military Rifle. These were made circa 1897-
1905, and most were (like yours) in 7mm Spanish Mauser caliber. Most of these went to South
Many Remington Rolling blocks were used in the old West, a few by military forces, but mostly by
civilians who appreciated their simplicity, rugged construction and low prices. However, yours is
not really one of those except for being the same very general type. I am sure you can make up
some exciting story about the initials.... that old Indian fighter "Apache Tom" or a Mexican bandito
"Agua Tomales" or something. John Spangler