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# 13628 -
Fancy Beretta .25 Pistol
Gold plated slide, clip, slide lock latch and screws for the grips, with beautiful scroll work on both
the stainless steel body and the gold slide also says made in ITALY on one side. I would like to
market this piece and need more info if you can YEAR MADE ? APROX. VALUE? HOW TO
MARKET IF POSS. AND IS THERE A MODLE FOR THIS PIECE??
Answer: Courtney, your pistol looks like a Beretta Model 420 or 421. The
models 420 and 421 were specially engraved and plated versions of the basic Beretta Model
The Beretta Model 418 was a semi-automatic pistol chambered in .25 ACP caliber. It came with
fixed sights and was similar to the earlier Beretta Model 318, but it had a loaded indicator and grip
safety. The Beretta Model 418 was first introduced in 1937 and it stayed in production with minor
modifications until 1961. Total Model 418 production was about 178,000 pistols. Early serial
numbers can be recognized because they have no letter suffix, later numbers have an A, B, or C
suffix. From an examination of the pictures that you sent me, I believe that your serial number is
not 454210, it is 45421C. Since your serial number has a C suffix, the pistol was probably
manufactured towards the end of production, probably in the late 1950s or early 1960s.
The blue book lists values for Model 418 pistols in the $120 to $275 range depending on condition.
For models like yours that are plated and engraved, the blue book says to add 50 to 100 percent to
the value, if the pistol is in 98 percent or better condition.
We may be able to help you sell, for more information about selling options, please take a look at
the information that we have posted at the following URL: http://oldguns.net/selling.htm
Hope this helps, Marc
# 13478 -
Special Order Winchester Model 94
Mike Easton MD
32 WS -
Pistol Grip and checkered My gun is missing the butt plate. The screw pattern does not look correct
for most of the shotgun style butt plates I have seen. Most have the top screw hole very close to
the top of the stock. The top hole on mine is centered 9/16 down from the top of the stock and the
holes are 3 and 1/8 measured center to center. My question is what type of plate would have been
on this gun and could it possibly of had a factory recoil pad at the manufacture date of 1913? My
wood appears to be all original.
Answer: Mike- Sounds like a
nice gun, and the special order pistol grip and checkering. That certainly suggests that some sort of
special buttplate could have been used. I assume that you already got a "factory letter" from the
Cody Firearms museum which should list any non-standard features. I don't know enough about the
different types of buttplates used to figure out anything from the screw hole spacing, but some of the
Winchester guys can probably help you out. I think the Winchester Arms Collectors Association
has a forum on line and you might want to ask there. John
I have a nice Mass Arms -Adams revolver. I understand that only 1,000 were manufactured and
approximately 600 were purchased by the Yankees. I have read that John Brown's organization
purchased 200 revolvers from Mass Arms that were delivered in 1858. There is a reference that the
Independent Baltimore Grays seized 200 revolvers from Brown and that Brown later refereed to the
revolvers as navy like. Do you know if there are any museums/individuals that have any of these
revolvers? Did the State of Va. purchase any of these revolvers prior to the war? Thanks for your
Answer: Coleman- You have
already done a great job researching these, and know a heck of a lot more about these than we do. I
regret we cannot add anything to what you have learned. John
left side rail barely readable ''de Guerre'' with the rest ground off- all other markings above wood line
removed with only traces unreadable. Removing action from stock, underside of receiver has a
small window stamp, square divided into 4 sections- also a capital letter ''A'' inside a circle in 2
places under receiver. On trigger guard is 4-leave clover or cross inside a circle on each side, also a
capital ''D'' or ''0'' or O'' with a small portion missing. On bolt, under cocking piece, is stamped
''BM1'' or ''RM1''- I know this is definitely an FN made action, but want to know what year/era/vintage.
It has left thumb notch and charger clip guides in receiver, but rear bridge is milled flat, no ''hump''.
Bolt handle is bent down enough that stock required cutout notch for bolt, definitely not a milsurp
bolt handle. Barrel is stamped ''Kodiak Arms, Connecticut, USA''. Action is ''C'' type with only one
cutout channel in breech area. This is a late-1950's/early 1960's KODIAK rifle built on an FN Mauser
98 military type action, but what year is the action ?
Answer: Thanks for the very thorough description that you sent. References
indicate that Kodiak Mfg. Co. of North Haven, Connecticut, manufactured rifles on refurbished 1898-
pattern Mauser actions from about 1959 to 1973. They also made some rifles under contract to
It sounds like you have a Model 98 Sporting Rifle, these were chambered in 243, 30-06 or 308 and
came with a 20 or 24 inch barrel, and a five-round magazine. The Model 98 had a plain hardwood
stock with a low Monte Carlo comb and impressed checkering on the pistol grip and forend
I do not know of a way to determine what year your action was manufactured. You might try posting
a question on one of the FN forums . Marc
1876 Tower Breech Loading Rifle -
Not Sure -
37 In. -
STAMPED WITH CROWN -
This rifle is breech loading and marked Tower and has a Crown stamped it is dated 1876 it's in real
good shape may be useable , overall length 55 inches and barrel 36- 37 inch, solid brass butt plate
and brass tip hand grip I've had this gun for some time and wondering if it is a military rifle and if it
has any value , I can't seem to find any info would appreciate any help you might offer. Thanks,
Answer: Cal- Canada used a number of Snider style rifles,
ranging from carbines to short rifles to full length infantry rifles. Yours is one of the full length
models. These basically used just the old .577 Enfield muzzle loader bullet and black powder load
stuffed into a brass centerfire cartridge case. These were used from about 1867 until around 1890 by
the Canadian regular forces and militia. There is some collector interest in these, mainly on the
Canadian side of the border, and values seem to run in the several hundred dollar range. John
Renato Gamba / Gibbs Rifle Co. When was it manufactured ?
Answer: Chris, I have not been able to locate any serial number information on
the HSc pistols that Gamba manufactures. The best that I can tell you is that they introduced the
HSc around 1996 and that values for their pistols are in the $200 to $400 range depending on
A quick Google search indicates that Renato Gamba has a Web site at
http://renatogambausa.com/. The Gamba Web site may be a good place to start if you are looking
for better information than I have been able to provide. Marc
In our family we have a flintlock dragon on which we have the names of: VICENZO MARI and
LAZARINO When cleaning I realized that when I take off one screw the gun can be divided into TWO
pieces! Is that original made for easier transport ? Tks and best regards
Answer: Baerlocher- That sounds like a really nice gun. there were several
generations of the Lazarino family making guns in Italy, usually very nice quality. These sometimes
incorporated custom features to satisfy a buyer's desires. I am not sure if yours was made as a
or if this was an alteration by a later owner. John Spangler
# 13624 -
Nick Warren, R.I.
20 Inches -
A 518276 -
I would like to know the manufacture date of this rifle, and the present value of it. Thank you,
Answer: Nick, I do not think that Winchester and Savage
ever collaborated on 99E manufacture. My guess is that you have a Savage model 99E Carbine
with 308 "Winchester" caliber markings. I do not have any serial number information for this model,
the best that I can tell you is that Savage manufactured the Model 99E Carbine, chambered in 308
Winchester from 1960 to around 1982. Values for Savage Model 99E Carbines in the blue book
range from about $250 to over $500 depending on condition.
# 13621 -
Unusual Arminius Markings
Buffalo symbol above and behind trigger guard. I've been doing research to find the model my
dad's old revolver was. I found the model, but there is a difference between what's online and what I
have. All the Arminius revolvers have a centurion symbol by their trigger guard, yet mine (HW5 22lr)
has a buffalo instead. I have not found any other revolvers with the symbol mine has. Any idea
Answer: Remington, Arminius revolvers were marketed
through many retail outfits, under many trade names in the 1950s and 1960s. Some of the names
that I can remember for Arminius were Dickson, Herter, Kessler, Omega and Gecado My guess is
that the markings on your revolver may indicate that it was sold through a different retailer than the
ones that you found in your internet searches were. Marc
# 13676 -
American 75mm M18 Shell-casing Trench Art
Hello I was wondering if you could answer something for me. I own an American 75mm M18 shell-
casing. Other markings on the bottom primer-cap are (in ink) AMM. LOT 22415-232-K.O.P Shot
A.P. M72 (bb co 1942 just below) lot 22981/26(stamped)
The primer itself is marked M1B1A1 1942 50424-15 and what looks like kop.
Now the shell casing itself is -engraved all the way around in German- "Blood and Honor" , 3rd
Totenkopf div, Waffen SS, a huge SS sig rune behind a large engraved SS soldier/his silhouette,
"my honor is called faithfulness" This all appears to have been engraved with some sort of field tool.
The casing appears to have never been polished it's very weathered and browned(white+green
patina on the inside of the shell).
Any idea of how in the world I can have this identified? To find out whom the seller was? To
eventually find out whom may have engraved this? It's value also. I would send you a photo but my
camera cradle is out right now. I'll try to get some images. Thanks for your time.
Answer: Steven- The shell is from a U.S. 75mm gun such as those mounted in
the U.S. M3 (Grant/Lee) and M4 (Sherman) tanks, and probably used a few other ways as well.
Many of these weapons, with ammunition, were sent to our allies during WW2, including both
England, and the Russians, but most were used by the U.S. forces.
That pretty much tells the story of what it was and how the brass shell casing got to where the
Germans could get their hands on it.
I suspect it was a trophy captured (perhaps along with a tank-- with or without a crew) by the
German Army unit carved on it.
If you want to get even, we are offering a German 88mm shell casing with American "trench art"
inscriptions on it.
It is an interesting oddity and there are some serious collectors of trench art. We have no feel
for values in that collecting niche. Hope that helps. John
# 13603 -
Rifle Ident Help
Robert Scottsdale AZ
I Don't Know! No Make On It -
My Mom Said It Maybe 303 -
I Think 303 -
About 25 Inches -
G19980 OR X'D OUT 34587 -
It has 2 different numbers on it first it looks like 35587 is crossed out and G19980 are clear. And it
has a 1916 G.R. SHI.LEIII on metal by the trigger. And some kind of numbers wit X's & letters
Opposite side Of Barrel. on Stock a brass washer with a screw in the middle. What type of gun is
it? When used, Make, Model? can you help
Answer: Robert, you
have the standard British rifle used from 1891 until early 1940, the Number 1, Mark III or a Mark III*
if there is no provision for a magazine cut off. It was made in 1916. The letters on the right side of
the buttstock are actually Sht LE and stand for "Short, Lee Enfield". The short refers to the barrel
length, and differentiated the rifle from the long Lee Enfield rifle. The GR stands for the British king at
the time, George the V. The GR is the Latin version of Georgius Rex or George, King.
Without a picture of the butt stock I'm not sure of the maker, but it was probably the Royal Arsenal
at Enfield Lock. The brass disk in the buttstock was used to identify the unit to whom the rifle was
assigned. If blank it has been replaced. The rifle was serial numbered on the right side of the
receiver. The same number should appear on the barrel, (you have to pull the top rear handguard off
to see it) the back of the bolt, the underside of the rear sight, and the nose cap. The rifle
undoubtedly saw service in World War I, and also in World War II.
# 13675 -
J. Stevens A & T Co. Single Shot Rifle
J. Stevens -
I have an old gun that my grandmother had. It's an J. Stevens A. & T. Co. Single shot 22. t was
made in Chicopee Falls, Mass. Can you give me any information?
Answer: Sir- Stevens made single shot .22s in a dozen or more models,
ranging from inexpensive "boys rifles" up to fine quality target rifles.
The A&T (Arms & Tool) name was used from the mid 1880s until about 1916, so that narrows
down the period. It most likely is one of the boys rifles, such as the 14 or 14 1/2 "Little Scout", or
possibly the "Favorite" model. These are slightly smaller versions of a full size rifle. Stevens also
made many "pocket rifles" which were basically pistols with or without shoulder stocks that could
Values for most are almost nothing in poor condition, to maybe $100-200 in average condition, to
several times that for truly pristine examples, or much more for the higher quality guns made in
Hope that helps. John Spangler
My son and I just purchased a Armi Tanfoglio Giuseppe-Gardone GT-32 from an auction. Does
anyone know the blue-book value of this gun? Is there an owners manual available anywhere for this
Answer: Jim, there is no collector interest in Armi Tanfoglio
firearms so I do not pay much attention to them. Armi Tanfoglio is not listed in my blue book so I
can't be of much help with blue book value. Fair market value is the price that an interested but not
desperate buyer would be willing to pay and an interested but not desperate seller would be willing
to accept on the open market assuming a reasonable period of time for an agreement to arise, but I
think that anything over $150 to $200 is too much. Hope that you did not get a case of auction fever
and pay too high a price.
I did a quick Google search on Armi Tanfoglio and came up with the unofficial Tanfoglio website,
located at the following URL:
The Tanfoglio site may be a good place to start in your search for an owners manual.
# 13674 -
Colt Navy With Civil War History In The Family
I recently inherited the "Ratcliffe" Colt M 1851 “Navy” revolver carried by Aaron L. Ratcliff during the
civil war. Its been passed down over the years and now its mine. Serial number is 177664. I have
checked the SN as late '64 or early '65 but need the manufactured date to place it with Grandpa
Aaron. He was in the 8th Regiment, CO C Iowa volunteer cavalry from 1863-65 enlisting in
Davenport, IA in 1863 and discharged in 1865 in Macon, GA. I have copies of his military record and
hope you can help me determine if this Colt was shipped to the Federal Army Quartermaster Corps
or where it was originally shipped.
If you are unable to help, do you recommend the Colt letter of history from the Colt archives?
Thanks for your help.
Answer: Jim- My data only shows that
number as being made in 1864.
Colt "Factory letters" are very expensive (I think at least $150 for any percussion gun) and some
records were destroyed in an 1864 fire at the factory, so I am not sure you can get a letter from
them for this number. If they CAN provide a letter for this number, it most likely will only show
something like "Shipped to the Ordnance Officer, New York Arsenal, [date] as one of a shipment of
Beyond that there is no surviving documentation you are likely to find. Scholars have dug diligently
through records in the National Archives for decades looking for serial numbers, but finding only a
Numbers were located by Frank Mallory of the Springfield Research Service for about 2,100 Model
1851 Navy revolvers, including some for the 1st Iowa Vol. Cav, and a few for the 3rd, but nothing from
the 8th. Usually these are found in Company Record books, not all of which survived, even from
within the same Regiment, and some (possibly the case for the 8th) have no such records
One indication may be in the pay account for your ancestor, as the practice was to deduct the cost
of any arms they wanted to keep from their final pay.
Hope that helps. John Spangler
I was trying to find the SN on an old Remington .22 that was my dads when he was a kid. I found
the code, and it is July of 1943. Then I called Remington for a owners manual, and when I received
the manual, there was a form, from Remington stapled to the manual. the form listed all the dates
that the rifle was made, and how many were made per year, and when they began SN.
Now if I am reading this form correctly there was only 4 Remington Sportsmaaster model 512, in .22
short, long, or long rifle made in 1943 due to the war and restrictions on metal. only 3 made in
1944. so I have 1 of 4 rifles made in 1943, or so it would appear. any comment or direction to find a
value would be appreciated.
Answer: Sir- While the low
production figure is interesting, I have not noted any indication that collectors place a premium value
to the small number of rifles made during the war years. The 500 series rifles are sort of marginally
collectable to start with, and values tend to be in the few hundred dollar range at most for a like new
example, and more like $100 for a well used one. Perhaps you could get a $25-50 premium for the
but probably only from a handful of very advanced collectors who might care. Hope that helps.
36'', Total Gun Length 48'' -
NONE FOUND... -
This is my grandfather's gun, bought from Herters in Waseca, Mn. The gun has very few markings
on it other than the model# and that it was made in England. Would like to know who made the
weapon, how is the quality and aprox value for insurance purposes. There have been less that a box
of shells fired in this rifle. Thank you
Answer: Clarke, Herters
operated out of Waseca, Minnesota circa 1960-1979. They offered an incredible variety of guns,
reloading gear, and hunting and fishing stuff. Most was pretty good quality, and it was sold at pretty
reasonable prices, accompanied by hyperbolic advertising touting everything as ``World’s best, new
and improved, ancient secret formulas``, and the like. Their rifles seem to have been made in
England or Yugoslavia, and are reportedly good, reliable guns. Although my partner John thinks that
Herters stuff would be a great collecting niche, their firearms have no collector interest. Value for
your rifle is about what a comparable J.C. Higgins or Revelation rifle would sell for. My guess is in
the $300 or less range. Marc
# 13658 -
Parts For An Old .22
Charles Patagonia Arizona
New England Arms -
Lone Ranger -
21 Inch -
Hello I Have a New England Arms , Springfield Mass. .22 Rifle Lone Ranger Model, This is The
Old New England Arms Co. Not the Currant New One ! I Need The Bolt for This Rifle ! Do You
Know Who Made This Rifle For Them, Or Where I Can Get a Bolt Thank You
Answer: Charles to judge by your liberal use of exclamation points, you seem
to be really excited about this old 22. New England Arms Co. is a trade name used by Charles J.
Godfrey of New York City, and also by Rohde, Spencer Company of Chicago, Illinois, circa 1900.
We do not have the parts that you need. I recommend you check with Gun Parts Corp (the old
Numrich Arms people) at:
Gun Parts Corp has just about everything. If that doesn't work, try posting it on our free "Wanted"
page at: http://oldguns.net/submitwn.htm. Good luck. Marc
# 13673 -
WW2 Pistol Cartridge Case Found In England
I am trying to find out some information about part of a cartridge case. It was found at Portland Bill,
Dorset, England. We know that the Americans were stationed there during the second world war. It
has the lettering W.R.A. CO. 45 A.C marked on its base.
However I can not find any rifles that would use this round or type of ammunition this was. I hope
you will be able to help. Thank you
Answer: Ged- Your case is
probably about 1/2" diameter by 1" long. That is the .45 Automatic Colt Pistol case, which was the
ammunition used in the Model 1911 Colt ".45 automatic" and also with the Thompson submachine
Relatively little of the U.S. military .45 ACP ammunition had that headstamp, which was used by
Winchester for their commercial loads. (Normal U.S. military practice was just the initials of the
maker and the date such as WRA 41). However, much of this ammunition was provided to the UK
during WW2 for use in the many Thompson submachine guns provided as "Lend Lease" material.
Hope that helps. John Spangler