# 14469 - Nazi Star Model B
4/28/2012
Peter

Acceptance German proof WaAD20 I have a Star B with a 1944 date code it also has a German acceptance stamp WaAD20 with no import stamp. I was wondering if it had any value to a collector

Answer:
Peter, if your Star is not one of the fakes, there is some collectors interest in it. Wartime Star pistols are made of high quality materials and exhibit excellent workmanship and finish. During World War II, Star supplied about 20,500 Model B pistols to the German Army and another 6,500 to the German Navy.

My reference books indicate that Star pistols used by the German Military had the following characteristics:

• High polish blue finish
• Unnumbered, bordered, checkered, walnut grips
• Serial number on base of grip strap next to lanyard ring
• An additional B prefix serial number found on some pistols, located on right grip tang, right rear slide and on the chamber
• Commercial test proof (P in a flaming bomb): Located on the left side of the slide to the rear of the slide grip, on the left forward side of the trigger guard, and on the right side of the chamber (barrel.)
• Commercial test proof (Knight's head over a shield with an X) located on the left side of the frame just for-ward of the slide stop.
• Military acceptance stamp Eagle over WaA251 or Eagle over WaAD20, located on the right side of the frame to the rear of the safety lever pin protrusion. Some early pistols were not marked with a Heerswaffenamt acceptance stamp.

Collectors should note that some Bulgarian import Star Model B Pistols have fake WaA markings which were applied in Europe by unscrupulous exporters. The best way to spot the fake German WW-II Heerswaffenamt WaA marking is that the 2nd or (capital "A") is centered under the eagle. The Authentic mark has the "A" offset to the left of the eagle.

Bulgarian contract pistols were delivered in three groups of 5000 each and the serial numbers fall within the following ranges:

• 9/01/43 Ser. #'s 225007-225775 & 226101-230331
• 2/12/43 Ser. #'s 230332-230375 & 231000-235782
• 3/03/44 Ser. #'s 235901-240900

Your serial number (253223) does not fall in any of the Bulgarian ranges, so chances are that your pistol is not a fake. I would be interested in purchasing the pistol, send me an e-mal via our contact form at the following URL:

http://oldguns.net/email/

Maybe we can work out a deal. Marc

# 14307 - AAO INSPECTION MARKS ON REMINGTON 513T RIFLE
4/28/2012
Randy, Farmington, NM

The stock has several stamps on it P, AK and AAO where is AAO arsenal or depot?

Answer:
Randy- The stock marking AAO indicates it was overhauled or inspected at the Augusta Arsenal, in Augusta, GA, probably in the 1950s or 1960s. John Spangler

# 14466 - Red 9
4/28/2012
Joseph R Ayfield, Hampton VA

Serial Number on all the parts of the gun They call this Gun a C96 Broomhandle. This gun was taken from a German Officer. that was kill by 101 Air born solder during the “D” Invasion. The gun taken back to the US after the war and has been kept in good working order all the information it looks to have been made in the time frame of 1897 - 899 long before WWII. This would make it 113 years old. Could you look at the information and get back to me

Answer:
Joseph, Mauser ''Red 9'' pistols had a separate serial number range (1-150000) and were manufactured between 1916 and 1918 so your pistol is not quite 100 years old yet. I am not sure what information you want me to get back to you with but if you want to sell, send me an e-mal via our contact form at the following URL:

http://oldguns.net/email/

Thanks, Marc

# 14456 - Yugo K98k Value
4/24/2012
Robin, Carrollton, Georgia

It has a crest on top and Preduzece 44 on the side. What is the worth of my gun?

Answer:
Robin, it sounds like you have one of the WWII German K98k rifles that were re-worked by the Yugoslavian government after WWII. When the rifles were re-worked, the Yugoslavs scrubbed the original factory markings and applied their own crest and the "Preduzece 44" markings which means "Factory #44." Sometimes if you look at some of the rifles at the right angle and in the right light, you can still see the original German factory markings.

Since these rifles have been re-worked their value is not as high as an example would be that is in original condition. Most of the Yugo re-works that I have seen have very nice bores so they make great shooters.

When the Yugo K98k rifles were first imported into the US, in the late 90s, they retailed in the $160 - $189 range. Currently they are selling in the $250 to $450 range depending on condition and accessories. Marc

# 14273 - Atlas Air Rifle (BB Gun)
4/24/2012
Kelly, Seaford, DE

Where can I find the value and possibly sell an 1890`s atlas bb gun? Any help would be appreciated

Answer:
Kelly- Congratulations, that is a pretty scarce and desirable gun!

In 1890 the Atlas Gun Company was formed from the remnants of the Haviland and Gunn Company which had been making very good quality air rifles since about 1868. H&G first operated in rented space at the Remington factory in Ilion, NY, later moved into a separate facility. Not being very profitable, they sold some of their designs to Quackenbush of nearby Herkimer, NY, and gave up when confronted by inexpensive competitor air rifles from Daisy and Markham. At that point, in 1890, H&G employee Gilbert W. Warren purchased what was left of H&G and formed the Atlas Gun Company.

He began production of a new design of air rifle and a new .22 rimfire rifle, both of which proved to be very popular (and profitable). In 1904 Sears Roebuck Company began offering the Atlas .22 caliber rifle in their catalog for $2.75 and it was very popular with kids busy working odd jobs to save up enough to buy one. [Of course, parents today would be charged with child abuse if they let their 10 year olds buy guns, but Civilization seemed to have survived just fine back them without the solicitous interference of assorted liberal loonies bent on banning guns and coddling criminals.] Following the death of Warren's wife in 1905 he sold his air rifle patents to Daisy who was not really interested in making the gun, only in eliminating a competitor. And, he sold the patents and factory for the .22 rifle to Meriden Firearms Company which was Sears' gun making subsidiary.

Several years ago a somewhat modified (boogered up!) example of the Atlas air gun sold for nearly $600, and I think a nice unmodified example would bring closer to $1,000. John Spangler

# 14175 - Primitive Vietnamese Weapons
4/21/2012
Rick

# 11158 - Vietnamese Flintlock Rifle 6/11/2005 Rock, Rock Hill, S.C. North Vietnamese - Handmade Flintlock - ? - 60 In. ? - Other - I have what I believe is a handmade, N. Vietnamese flintlock rifle with an octagon shaped barrel and a pistol grip stock. Very crude in design complete with a black pouch for carrying spent lead to reshape and a cow horn with black powder. I have had it since at least 1967 and don't know how much older it could be. Was wondering if anyone has seen one before or if anyone has any additional info. on this. Thanks, Rock I have two of the same thing...saw this old post and was wondering about their value also...My dad was KIA 4JUL68 but spent two years in Laos, Thailand, and Vietnam with SF from 62-64...he brought these back with him and I was told stories since I could remember... they were captured by him and his team while in the SF...supposedly a small girl came up to one of my dad's men while walking in a village and shot him with the smallest one unexpectedly... one is about 3` long and the other about 54''...was also told that these were made out of pieces of metal that was scrapped from other items and that they would fire nails, pieces of shrapnel etc...out of them when they didn't have lead for bullets... Have you discovered anything new about these since that post in 2005? Thanks!

Answer:
Rick- Unfortunately, we are no smarter now than we were in 2005, and have nothing to add on this subject. There is increasing interest in collecting Vietnam War items, and other people may have come up with more info in recent years, but we cannot help. Thank you for your dad’s service. The stigma placed on Vietnam vets by the smelly hippies of the 1960s has faded, but sadly some of those same people who hate our country are now running it, and their coconspirators in the news media are now trying to defame the current generation of vets, rather than honoring them for their service. It is good that you and other patriotic Americans are still thanking and honoring those who defend our rights and our freedom. John Spangler

# 14459 - Probably A Model 27 Or 27S
4/21/2012
Dennis

Marlin pump rifle 32-20, octagon barrel. Pat.dates:Aug 12,1890, Mar.1.`92,June 8,`97, Nov 29,1904. These are only markings. any idea of model and value?

Answer:
Dennis, I can't say for sure without seeing the rifle but my guess is that you have a Marlin Model 27 or a 27S. The Model 27 was manufactured by the Marlin Fire Arms Company, New Haven, Connecticut, from 1909 to 1911. The design was built around patents granted to James Wheeler, George Beck and Melvin Hepburn in July 1911, on the basis of guns designed by John Marlin and Lewis Hepburn. This derived from the rimfire Marlin Model 20. The Model 27 was first introduced in 25-20 or 32-20, it was a take-down design with a pivoting catch on the front right side of the receiver which could be used in conjunction with a thumbscrew on the left (later right) side to detach the barrel/magazine unit. The barrel was octagonal and the magazine tube was short. The buttstock was the straight-wrist type with a crescent buttplate. The forend usually had nine grooves and doubled as the operating handle.

The Model 27S was manufactured from 1911 to 1932. It was an improvement of the earlier Model 27 with a button on the right side of the receiver which allowed the action to be opened without dropping the hammer onto the firing pin. A round-barrel option was added in 1913, together with a 25-35 Stevens rimfire chambering. Production ceased 1916 due to WWI and did not begin again until 1922. Post-war production was mostly the round barrel pattern.

Values for Marlin Model 27 and 27S rifles range from start at about $100 and top off at around $400 depending on condition. Marc

# 14428 - Sears & Roebuck 3T
4/17/2012
William, Mtn. Home, ID

None, but is Win. 190/290 Can you please, tell me when this was manufactured?

Answer:
William, I do not have any serial number information to date the Winchester 190/290. The best that I can do is to tell you that approx. 2,150,000 190 and 290 rifles were manufactured by Winchester. Model 190 rifles were manufactured from 1967 to 1980 and Model 290 rifles were manufactured from 1965 to 1973. Model 290 rifles were similar to the 190, except that they had a select Monte Carlo stock.

Values for Winchester 190 and 290 rifles top off at about $200, values for the Sears & Roebuck 3T variant will be less by as much as 50%. Marc

# 14465 - Gustav Genschow & Co. 22 Rifle
4/17/2012
Emil Hrivnak

Akt. Ges. Abtl. Waffenfabrik Berlin - Spandau Original Geco Sportbuchse Mod 28. Any idea if it's worth anything? I know it's at least 50 years old.

Answer:
Emil, we can't help too much with your rifle. Barrel length would have been a key bit of information, but you didn't have it handy. Geco was one of several reputable German arms makers in the pre- WW2 period, making a variety of models, much as Winchester, Remington, and Stevens were doing in the U.S. There is not much collector interest in most of the sporting models, but there is a fair interest in the models resembling the Kar98k German service rifle. These are considered to be secondary martial arms and seem to have a good demand. These have stocks similar to the Kar98k rather than sporter style stocks, and any military "waffenamt" marks are a plus. Values on the sporter versions don't seem to fit much of a pattern, due to weak demand. Best bet would be to take it to a gun show in your area where you have a good chance of having somebody interested in such things spot you carrying it. Gun shops in your area may or may not have anybody who knows anything about these...(but they may know more than I do). Hope you find out more... John Spangler

# 14306 - Large Naval Artillery Projectile
4/14/2012

MY FATHER-IN-LAW OWNS AN EXCAVATION COMPANY IN SEATTLE. HE UNEARTHED A PROJECTILE WHILE DECOMMISSIONING A LARGE GAS TANK FROM AN OLD GAS STATION. THE PROJECTILE IS APPROX. 16 INCHES IN DIAMETER AND APPROX. 72 INCHES LONG.I CAN SEND PHOTOS,BUT DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA WHAT IT MIGHT BE !!!!!THANKS

Answer:
Sir- That sounds like it might be a 16 inch projectile used by the Navy, or by the Army for some Coast Artillery. There are a lot of these that got scrapped, and are inert and harmless. There is a very remote chance that this is a live one that fell overboard and was later dredged up and dumped as fill material, not realizing what it was, or was buried in a once remote area to dispose of a live but defective shell. It may also be some sort of other metal object, not a projectile at all.

Please send some photos and I will make a recommendation if I think it might be dangerous or not. I am a historian, not a bomb technician, so no guarantees, but based on past military service and lots of research and reference material, I can probably get you pointed in the right direction. However, if in doubt, contact the local police bomb squad or military Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) team right away. John Spangler

# 14426 - Model 1890?
4/14/2012
Sue

Hi, I have a 22 long Winchester rifle with a octagon barrel. It is patent Jan 29, 1905 and the serial # is 426194. Its a pump action and in beautiful condition. My father gave it to me and I shot it as a little girl. How can I find out what it is worth?

Answer:
Sue, my guess is that you have a Model 1890. The Model 1890 was Winchester’s first slide action repeating rifle, it was introduced to replace the .22 caliber model 1872. The model 1890 was popular due to the fact that it was both inexpensive and very well made. The Model 1890 was available in four different chamberings, 22 Short, 22 Long, 22 Long Rifle and 22 Winchester Rim Fire(WRF). Rifles were chambered specifically for each individual caliber and were not interchangeable as are many modern 22 rifles. Model 1890’s are sometimes called "gallery rifles" because they were used almost universally in shooting galleries of the era. Approximately 849,000 model 1890’s were made between 1890 and 1932. If your rifle is a Model 1890, it was manufactured in 1910. Model 1890 values depend greatly upon condition. Most 1890’s were heavily used and so specimens in excellent condition bring a premium. Values for 1890 Winchesters manufactured after 1901 range from $150.00 to over $700.00. If you need a more exact value take a look at our appraisals page. Marc

# 14289 - U.S. Model 1910 Bayonet Scabbard Cover
4/10/2012
Dan - North Bend, Ohio

I did not see a field for Q&A concerning edged weapons. I hope that this is the correct forum. I recently purchased 16'' U.S. M1905 bayonet and scabbard. The scabbard has the canvas cover and the canvas has shrunk about 2.0'' down from the throat OF THE SCABBARD. Is there a way to stretch the canvas back to its` original position? If anyone has been successful with this same issue I would be grateful if you would walk me through the process. thanks, in advance.

Answer:
Dan- I don’t know of any way to stretch the covers. They were made from either woven or sewn cotton fibers, and cotton can shrink, sometimes a lot. However two inches of shrinkage seems excessive. Are you sure it is not missing the leather tip which is about 2 inches long? Maybe someone else can suggest something. John Spangler

# 14450 - Savage 1915
4/10/2012
Tom, Dallas, Pa USA

Are they rare, and if so worth anything?

Answer:
Tom, the Savage Model 1915 was a major redesign from the earlier model 1907. Among other changes the Model 1915 had a concealed cocking-piece and a grip safety. There was also a hold-open catch inside the trigger guard that could lock the slide open after the last round in the magazine had been fired.

The .32 caliber Model 1915 was manufactured only in 1915 and 1916, the .380 model was manufactured from 1915 to 1917. Like the model 1907, the model 1915 uses no screws.

Blue book values for .32 caliber Model 1915 pistols range from $200 to around $900 depending on condition. The bluebook says that the 380 models are worth a little more, they top out at around $1000. Although the bluebook lists higher values for these pistols, I would be surprised to see one sell for more than around $500 even in excellent condition. Marc

# 14284 - Another Pepper Box Question
4/7/2012
Nick

This appears to be an early model Sharps pepperbox, can you tell me when it was manufactured and or where I can search it's history? Also it needs a main spring, can such a thing still be had?

Answer:
Nick- We have answered questions on Sharps four barrel pepperbox pistols many times in the past, and I really do not think I can add much to what was in those. Please use the “search Q&A” option on the left hand menu strip to find them and they should answer your questions. Thanks. John Spangler

# 14451 - Mod 94 Value
4/7/2012
David

My grandfather passed away about 15 years ago. He was a huge gun guy, and I ended up getting one his guns. Well I'm in the military now, and have traveled everywhere. I just got home and was thinking about selling his gun, but I have no clue what its worth. It's a Winchester Model 1894, Serial Number 3147450. It's in great condition, the wood is perfect, there's no rust, and it has been stored in an environmentally controlled area. If you would know a good price to sell this for I would greatly appreciate it

Answer:
David, I would like to thank you for your service. I really appreciate the sacrifices that are made on our behalf by those in the armed forces.

Your grandfathers Winchester was manufactured in 1967. It sounds like a nice gun and my advise would be to keep it in the family and not sell it. If you do decide to sell, values for Winchesters manufactured after 1964 are lower than they are for the earlier guns. I would expect to see a Winchester like you are describing sell in the $500 range. Marc

# 14448 - Juker 45
4/7/2012
Bobby

What is it worth? made in Spain

Answer:
Bobby, there is not allot of interest in these guns, I would expect to see one selling at a gunshow in the $100 range. Marc

# 14293 - Cecil Brooks Flintlock “Kentucky” Rifle
4/3/2012
Richard, Farmington, NM

Cecil Brooks signed ,ca. 1970`s .45 cal flintlock rifle w/ silver and gold inlays. Excellent aged birdseye maple stock. With information provided, can you give me an approx. appraised value?

Answer:
Richard- Cecil Brooks was one of America’s finest artisans recreating the classic “long Rifle” often called a Pennsylvania or Kentucky rifle. Brooks’ skills were so impressive that he was commissioned to make a special deluxe presentation rifle for the NRA to present to the guest speaker at the annual meeting in 1955. He did such a great job that he was selected to do it again, every year for the next 49 years, until shortly before his death in 2006. Although there are some makers who can exceed even the high quality of a Cecil Brooks rifle, they are few and far between.

Here is a video on a Cecil Brooks rifle about the same vintage as yours: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XE9RTxg7JNs

As far as value, I could only guess that it would be in the several thousand dollar range. If one came up at auction at one of the major gun auction houses, I am sure they would get a good price for it.

Nice gun! Enjoy! John Spangler

# 14447 - Refinished Mauser P-38
4/3/2012
Herb

byf 44 There are 3 parallel lines about 1/8th inch long superposed on the number 135 just above the trigger. Can you identify the manufacturer, date of manufacture, and country of manufacture? This gun is identical to the Walther P.38, but does not carry the Walther trademark.

Answer:
Herb, you have a German WWII vintage P-38. The P-38 was adopted by Germany as it's standard service pistol in 1938. P-38's were manufactured for the German military by Walther, Mauser and Spreewerke. Your P-38 was manufactured by Mauser (byf is the WW-II German ordnance code that was assigned to Mauser-Werke, Oberndorf am Neckar, Germany). The 44 stamping on your P-38 is the year it was manufactured (1944). 135 is a German WW-II Heerswaffenamt inspector's mark assigned to arms produced at Mauser Werke AG, Oberndorf am Neckar. As far as I have been able to determine no Mauser P-38's were manufactured with an original factory nickel finish so your P-38 has probably been refinished. Values for refinished P-38's are in the $200 to $350 range. Marc