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U.S. Military Antique Longarms (and post 1898 items not needing FFL) **NEW ADDITION** 1596 RARE! U.S. MODEL 1884 “FLAT LATCH” ROD BAYONET TRIALS “TRAPDOOR” .45-70 RIFLE - Serial number 314343. Only 1,013 of these were made in 1885-86 widely scattered through the 314xxx through 321xxx range. This is NOT the later common Model 1888 rifles which had a different rod bayonet system. The earlier 1,014 Model 1880 triangular rod bayonet rifles were a failure, and this 1884 version was an attempt to find a workable round rod bayonet and latch mechanism. This 1884 mechanism was a little better, but still not satisfactory. Later, the much improved 1888 design with extended locking “fingers” at the front and rear of the latch and deeper grooves on the rod bayonet worked satisfactorily and about 65,000 of those were made 1888-1892, with many used in the Spanish American War. The Model 1884 rod bayonet rifle was unique with a hooded front sight pinned to the bayonet latch base, instead of a base brazed directly to the barrel. The 1884 used the traditional two piece trigger guard, while the 1888 had a single piece milled guard. Most of the Model 1884 rod bayonet trials rifles were subsequently modified to the 1888 configuration, making unmodified M1884 “Flat latch” rifles extremely hard to find. Based on my observations, probably only about 250 survive in original or restored configuration. This is a good representative example of this scarce rifle, and there will be few opportunities to upgrade to a nicer one because they are so scarce. It was in my collecton for 18 years before I did find an upgrade, making it available for adoption. Metal parts with about 85-90% old refinish blue turned to plum and patina, with some scattered light roughness- mainly on the trigger guard assembly. Stock has faint illegible cartouche and circle P. The edges of the channel in the forend for the M1884 rod bayonet had fragile edges, later widened on the 1888. This stock has 9 and 10 inch repaired sections along that easily damaged area. A good representative example of one of the scarcest Trapdoor Springfields at an affordable price. ANTIQUE- No FFL needed. $2495.00 (View Picture) **NEW ADDITION** 1166 U.S. MODEL 1873 .45-70 “TRAPDOOR” RIFLE- INTERESTING ERSATZ “FRANKENFIELD” RIFLE - Serial number 47899 originally made in 1875 as a standard infantry rifle with all the early features. In 1879 it was decided to recall all trapdoors with serial numbers under 50,000 to be broken down with most parts salvaged to be rebuilt into Model 1879 style arms which featured stronger stocks with a longer comb and short wrist, and wider receivers and breechblocks which were a bit stronger. The barrels, locks and stock fittings were recycled and the newly made arms used receivers with a “Star” at the end of the serial number, indicating they were rebuilt. There was not really any urgent need for replacing the early arms, but Springfield Armory funding had been drastically cut, but there was a lot of money in the “Arming and Equipping the Militia” account which was used for this program and these arms were then issued mainly to the states for militia/National Guard use. This left a huge inventory of early receivers and breech block which were sold off as scrap. Since complete trapdoor rifles were not available for the civilian market, surplus dealers eventually filled this gap by creating composite rifles using a very creative mix and match from parts on hand and a few new made parts. This rifle is a result of this, probably done by Schuyler, Hartley & Graham, or Bannerman circa 1884-1890. These are discussed in Al Frasca’s “The .45-70 Springfield Book II” pages 321-323. From 5 feet away, this looks like an excellent condition Springfield 1879 Trapdoor rifle. However, closer inspection reveals its truly mongrel pedigree. The action is one of the scrapped early M1873 discussed above. The barrel has five groove rifling with excellent bright and sharp bore, instead of regulation three grooves, and is probably from Remington, Sharps, or Winchester surplus, with no proof marks. The stock is a M1863 Type 2 .58 musket, likely one of the thousands broken down by Springfield when they salvaged lock internals and stock furniture for use in trapdoor production. The flats around the lock area have been rounded to M1873 shape, the middle bandpsring recess filled and shoulder slimmed away, the tip cut back and the upper band shoulder location moved to trapdoor location. The forend tip is from the .58 muskets. The bands are unidentified, looking like M1873 but fitting the fatter musket stock. No provisions for cleaning rod stop at the upper band, but the original musket ramrod spoon remains The ramrod channel is the wider style for the thick M1863 type 2 rods. The barrel channel has a strip of thin leather or cork to fill the gap left by the smaller .45 caliber barrel. The buttplate is a commercial casting just a bit lesser quality than MILSPEC. The trigger guard assembly seems to be correct M1855-1879 style. The lockplate is marked with a crudely struck eagle and U.S. over 1884. The lock guts are a mix with the correct springs, tumbler and bridle, but the sear and sear screw are from something else, with minor adjustment to the lock inletting to accommodate this. The hammer is from a M1866070 .50-70, or possibly a musket hammer with the nose altered. Lockplate and tang screws are from ??? The rear sight is a M1879 trapdoor carbine, The stock has a circled “R” (not “P) proof behind the trigger guard, and there is a RGS in oval cartouche, which was NOT used by any documented U.S. military inspector. Initials JES lightly carved between lock screws. An old ID number of some sort is electric penciled on the bottom ledge of the breechblock seen in the photos. This is one of a number of “Frankenfield” copies of military rifles from John’s collection which were used in a display a few years ago. Besides this Hartley & Graham Trapdoor it included a Santa Fe M1903A3, Bannerman Krag carbine, Bannerman 1937 version of M1903 rifle, a Sedgley M1903 Springfield, and a reweld M1 Garand. While on the fringes of U.S. military arms collecting, it was fun to do something a little different, and also a very instructive warning to collectors about potential items which are not what they appear to be. Overall excellent condition with about 95% blue finish on most parts and traces of case colors on the breechblock. Stock is pleasing medium brown with old military style oil finish. Missing whatever cleaning rod it might have had, otherwise excellent.. If a “real” M1873 trapdoor in this condition, the price would be about 3-4 times our modest price for this really interesting and attractive old rifle. $795.00 (View Picture) 1268 U.S. M1816 FLINTLOCK .69 CALIBER SMOOTHBORE MUSKET MADE BY WICKHAM- WITH BAYONET - (Serial number- none) Marine T. Wickham has received credit as the designer of the Model 1816 muskets during his tenure as Purveyor of Public Supplies in Philadelphia. Later he received a contract to manufacture the muskets, and delivered about 16,600 circa 1822-1837. This example bears the markings used on Wickham’s earlier production: M.T. WICKHAM in an arc over PHIDA. The Model 1816 was the standard infantry arm for the U.S. Army from the end of the War of 1812 through the Mexican War in 1846-48, and after conversion to percussion in the 1850s, many Model 1816 muskets served until near the end of the Civil War. They are the last model to be made to non-interchangeable standards, although parts within a given maker were very close, there was not uniformity between the makers. This is a nice representative example of the model, with a pleasing patina so it looks impressively “old.” Good cartouche on the side opposite the lock and ahead of the butt. It does not have the 1850s inspection and grading cartouche usually found on examples converted to percussion. The lock appears to be original flint and the touchhole appears correct as well. The lock is not a tight fit against the barrel, probably the result of a replaced rear lock screw that is a couple threads too long (and slightly bent as well) keeping the lock from seating fully, or blocking the hammer if it is in all the way. Easily corrected with a few file strokes on the tip, but this is a consignment piece and we can not make any alterations. The 42 inch barrel has a dark and rough bore, but you probably don’t want to shoot these old flintlocks anyway. Markings on the metal are legible except the date on the barrel tang which looks like it might be 1832. The full length walnut stock is solid, never sanded, just a mellow patina. Wood behind the barrel is solid, further indication that it was never converted to percussion. There is some chipping and chattering (probably caused by use without a rear lock screw) along the back of the lock inletting. Left side of butt has lightly incised “Depue ‘76” which may have been added during the Centennial celebration of 1876, or even the Bicentennial of 1976 when old flintlocks were brought out to arm celebrants for parades and the like. Or, maybe it indicates ownership by some famous sports star with that jersey number? This musket comes complete with a Model 1816 bayonet which fits, although somewhat loosely. This will be a good representative example of the smoothbore flintlock muskets which lasted from the Revolutionary War until the supremacy of the percussion arms. ANTIQUE- No FFL needed. $2750.00 (View Picture) 663 U.S. MODEL 1840 .69 CAL. SMOOTHBORE FLINTLOCK MUSKET- CONVERTED TO PERCUSSION - The Model 1840 was the last flintlock smoothbore musket made for the U.S. Army, the direct descendant of the old French Charlevilles. The pattern arms were made in 1835 but production did not start until 1840, so sometimes you will see these referred to as Model 1835 or 1835/1840. Production at Springfield only lasted into 1843, after the Model 1842 percussion musket model was adopted. Production by the two civilian contractors lingered into 1848. Original flintlock M1840 muskets are nearly impossible to find, and even the percussion conversions are scarce compared to the ubiquitous Model 1816s. Springfield Armory only made about 30,241 (circa 1840-43), Nippes made 5,100 (circa 1842-1848), and Pomeroy made another 7,000 (circa 1840-1846). See Flayderman 9A-258 through 9A-263. This one was made at Springfield in 1843, although the barrel date is not visible. Like nearly all the M1840s this was converted to percussion with the cone in barrel method and undoubtedly issued for use in the Civil War. Some were rifled when converted, others (like this one) remained smooth bore. This is “as found” and will be a very nice representative example after a good cleaning. The metal is a mix of dull steel gray with some patina and very fine roughness around the nipple and the buttplate and upper band. Ignore the “original rust fanatics” and go ahead and clean this one back to bright as it would have been when in service. The walnust stock was sanded or scraped long ago and is dry and lifeless. Simply rubbing in some boiled linseed oil will make it a lot nicer. There are two chips along the right side of the barrel channel between the lower and middle band. A break at the wrist and a chip along the left side of the barrel tang were neatly repaired long ago, and hardly noticeable. Old rack number “99” on the wrist.The ramrod and hammer screw are replacements, and likely the nipple as well, but everything else is correct and original. Bore is filthy, with lots of crud, but should clean to be very good with no significant pitting. These were heavily used in the opening years of the Civil War, so this one likely saw combat use, making history, not some pretty safe queen hiding in a crate in an armory. Ready to clean and take a proud place in your collection. ANTIQUE, no FFL needed. $1495.00 (View Picture) 341 U.S. MODEL 1840 .69 CAL. SMOOTHBORE FLINTLOCK MUSKET-CHEAP! - The Model 1840 was the last flintlock smoothbore musket made for the U.S. Army, the direct descendant of the old French Charlevilles. The pattern arms were made in 1835 but production did not start until 1840, so sometimes you will see these referred to as Model 1835 or 1835/1840. Production quickly stopped at Springfield, after the Model 1842 percussion musket model was adopted. Production lingered on for a few more years and the two civilian contractors finished up their production by 1848. Original flintlock M1840 muskets are nearly impossible to find, and even the percussion conversions are scarce compared to the ubiquitous Model 1816s. Springfield Armory only made about 30,241 (circa 1840-43), Nippes made 5,100 (circa 1842-1848), and Pomeroy made another 7,000 (circa 1840-1846). See Flayderman 9A-258 through 9A-263. This one was made by Nippes in Philadephia in 1845 with matching dates on the lock and barrel. This is one of the very few that escaped conversion to percussion (but sadly did not escape other molestation). Most likely this was used in the Civil War by Union or Confederate soldiers and was possibly taken home by one (with or without permission to go home and/or take a musket), or maybe picked up off a battlefield. Or possibly it served honorably and ended up among the vast quantities of Civil War surplus arms later sold by Bannerman. At some point in civilian hands the mutilations began. The muzzle of the barrel was cut back an inch and a half, getting rid of the bayonet stud, and leaving the barrel 40.5 inches long instead of the original 42 inches. I suspect that the owner was an exceptionally tall man as they neatly added a walnut extension on the butt to make the butt about 1.5” longer and trimmed the nose of the comb down a bit. The stock was once cracked along the grain between the lock and lower band, but this was very neatly repaired and not noticeable from the outside, but when the barrel is removed you can see some of the epoxy material in the barrel channel. The barrel is original flint with only the flint flash hole, never any nipple added. The lockplate retains the original brass pan and frizzen spring and the screws for the hammer, frizzen and frizzen spring. The frizzen fits pretty well but is probably a replacement of some sort. The hammer is a U.S. M1816 hammer which is a loose fit on the tumbler but looks okay. The brass pan has some sort of iron filler piece installed secured by a rivet through the bottom of the pan but the reason for this is a mystery to me. The changes to the lock were probably done to keep the gun functioning for killing hogs, hunting critters or for protection against biped or quadraped predators. Since the barrel has been cut and the butt extended, the changes to the lock might be best to ignore and leave everything alone as part of the history of the gun. Good quality reproduction M1840 hammers and frizzens are available if you want to install them to get back closer to original. Overall condition is GOOD (as modified). Metal parts have a smooth mellow brown patina with some heavier rust or light pitting around the breech end of the barrel, but little or no pitting elsewhere except at the Nippes marking on the center of the lockplate. The metal parts could easily be cleaned bright again if you want to do that. A good machinist could take a piece of .69 musket barrel and make an extension with a slight overlapping or telescope braze joint to stretch the barrel back to the original length. A representative example of the last of the U.S> flintlock muskets at a bargain price. ANTIQUE, no FFL needed. $895.00 (View Picture) 146 RARE “WINGATE’S INDICATOR FOR AIMING DRILL” EARLY U.S. MILITARY GALLERY PRACTICE DEVICE - Patented in 1876, this was a predecessor of the later and somewhat similar concept “Hollifield Dotter,” using the energy of the firing pin striking the back of a rod to propel it forward so a sharp point will mark a paper target with a pin-prick to show if the aim was good, and group size for several shots. (See my 13 page article “U.S. Military Marksmanship Indoor Rifle Practice, 1858-1921: Methods and Equipment” in the August 2018 issue of Arms Heritage Magazine for more on this subject.) These were widely used by the New York National Guard in their 50-70 rolling block rifles, making them a U.S. military gallery practice collector item. Information is scarce, mainly George Wingate’s Manual for Rifle Practice (7th edition). Advertising claimed that these were available from Winchester, but I do not know if it was in the WRA catalog. I had never been able to find one for my collection, but lucked into a couple from the estate of a prominent collector. I will include a 16 page pamphlet with copies of the section of Wingate’s manual his patent for the device, and a replica of the target they used and photos of the details of the Indicator. This provides information and history behind this extremely rare item. This is cleaned, as shown in the photo of a sample. This is the New York state model, with overall length 38 inches for use in a 36 inch barrel. $165.00 Also have one that is 27.5 inches long suitable for a barrel about 25.5” long, perhaps shortened for use with the New York rolling block carbines with 22” barrel, or perhaps for a privately owned rifle. Still a great example of the Wingate Indicator for the general concept, and price reduced to $65.00 on this one. $165.00 (View Picture) 551 RARE EARLY DAISY NO. 111 MODEL 40 “RED RYDER” AIR RIFLE CIRCA 1940-41 WITH COPPER BANDS - First made in 1940, the Red Ryder has been in more or less continuous production since then, except during WW2 years, with an astounding 9 million made so far. This is several generations older than the gun Ralphie lusted after in “Christmas Story, and is old enogh to have been “the old man’s” gun when he was a kid. This has the following distinctive early features: copper washed front sight band staked (not spot welded) on the barrel. Copper washed spot welded barrel band on the forend. Rear sight screw adjustable for elevation (screw missing). Wood stocks with the Red Ryder logo branded on the left side of the butt. The shot tube loading is the “twist the muzzle cap” type. Lever is cast iron, not aluminum. This is a used, but not abused example, with about 90% original blue having a lot of light surface rusting and freckles, some of which will clean off, and some will not. Kid’s name that looks like “Jeremy Cobb” is neatly electric penciled on right side or the receiver. The copper wash is mostly worn off the two bands, but enough remains to confirm this is indeed the rare early model. The buttstock is cracked about an inch below the top of the receiver, but easily repaired. Wood screw to secure the top of the butt stock is missing. Butt and forend retain most of the stain and varnish finish with remarkably little wear or dings, but there is a little wear on the butt and a small age crack at the butt shown in the photos. I think the leather thong on the saddle ring is original, but it may have been trimmer or replaced. Not a minty example, but one that some kid used and enjoyed and took pretty good care of. This is a very nice example of the rare early pre-war Red Ryder guns for a collector. If you just want a shooters, there are plenty of those pretty inexpensive, waiting for your use. Just be careful or you’ll shoot your eye out! No FFL needed. Residents of Kalifornia and other places run by idiots please include note from your mother and proof you are over 12 years old, and promise not to shoot the neighbor’s cat. $185.00 (View Picture) 21251 RARE “WINGATE’S INDICATOR FOR AIMING DRILL” EARLY U.S. MILITARY GALLERY PRACTICE DEVICE - Patented in 1876, this was a predecessor of the later and somewhat similar concept “Hollifield Dotter,” using the energy of the firing pin striking the back of a rod to propel it forward so a sharp point will mark a paper target with a pin-prick to show if the aim was good, and group size for several shots. (See my 13 page article “U.S. Military Marksmanship Indoor Rifle Practice, 1858-1921: Methods and Equipment” in the August 2018 issue of Arms Heritage Magazine for more on this subject.) These were widely used by the New York National Guard in their 50-70 rolling block rifles, making them a U.S. military gallery practice collector item. Information is scarce, mainly George Wingate’s Manual for Rifle Practice (7th edition). Advertising claimed that these were available from Winchester, but I do not know if it was in the WRA catalog. I had never been able to find one for my collection, but lucked into a couple from the estate of a prominent collector. I will include a 16 page pamphlet with copies of the section of Wingate’s manual his patent for the device, and a replica of the target they used and photos of the details of the Indicator. This provides information and history behind this extremely rare item. This is cleaned, as shown in the photo of a sample. This is the New York state model, with overall length 38 inches for use in a 36 inch barrel. $165.00. (View Picture) 21634 RARE! U.S. MODEL 1884 EXPERIMENTAL ROUND ROD BAYONET .45-70 TRAPDOOR UPDATED TO M1888 CONFIGURATION- NICE - Serial number 320076. In 1884 Springfield made 1,000 .45-70 trapdoors with experimental round rod bayonets. Trials in 1881 with a triangular rod bayonet were a failure and this was a new attempt to come up with an alternative to the triangular socket bayonet and reduce the soldier’s load by the weight of the bayonet and scabbard. The latch is flat on the bottom, often called the "flat latch” model to distinguish it from the later 1888 which had a finger wrapped around at the ends of the latch to better grip the bayonet in the stowed or fixed position. The 1884 Flat Latch system was also a failure and after troop trials most were withdrawn from service, and rifles continued to be made with socket bayonets until the 1888 was adopted. Circa 1889-1891 many of the M1884 trials rifles were rebuilt to M1888 configuration, and as a result unmodified M1884 trials rifles are extremely scarce, and probably less than 50 survive. If one turns up the price starts about $5,000 or higher. This one is in the middle of the M1884 serial number range. It retains the two piece trigger guard, not the single piece used on the M1888. It has two distinct circle P firing proofs below the trigger guard tang. The left stock flat has a SWP/1891 cartouche located directly below the rear lock screw, and I have seen another one of the M1884/1888 updated rifles with an 1889 cartouche in the same location, and the double circle Ps. Normally, trapdoor cartouches are located towards the butt from the rear lock screw, not underneath it. The stock were arsenal modified to trim off the weak edges of the rod channel, and to fit the slightly longer cap on the bayonet base. It is likely that the stock was lightly scraped and refinished at the time of conversion, removing the 1884 cartouche, but leaving the first circle P. Metal parts retain about 80-90% thinning blue from time of conversion. About 95% color case hardening on the breechblock. Stock has original oil finish, and just a few assorted ding of an issued martial arm. Small chip along the left side the breech tang. Brass tack with number 9 just behind the trigger guard tang, but source or meaning unknown. Bore is excellent- sharp and bright. Since unmodified M1884 experimental bayonet rifles are out of reach for most collectors, this M1884/1889 updated will have to suffice, but is a lot more affordable. ANTIQUE, NO FFL needed. $2150.00 (View Picture) 20873 U.S. LINE THROWING GUN- KILGORE MODEL GR-52 - Serial number 617 with USCG approval 160/040/4/0 as marked on the frame. Theoretically, the approval number should allow dating these to within a five year period corresponding with the date of USCG approval under section section 160.040 covering life saving appliances. However, no complete list has been found of all approvals, so with only a few scattered examples the best I can do is estimate that this was circa 1960s-1980s, but I believe the basic model dates to 1952. This is a “Schermuly” type life saving line throwing gun which uses a small pistol type launcher firing a stubby “impulse-ignition cartridge.” Before firing, a rocket motor with an attached wire frame sticking back for attachment of the “line” is inserted in the muzzle. When fired, the impulse ignition cartridge flash ignites the rocket motor and kicks the rocket out on its way. The basic concept was invented by Richard Schermuly, a British seaman and inventor around the beginning of the 20th century. However, despite its simplicity, low cost, and effectives (so easy a young child could use it) the concept was not adopted until 1929 by the International Conference for Saving of Life at Sea Treaty (SOLAS). Multiple types of line throwing devices have been invented over the years since 1807 when George Manby came up with a mortar for the purpose of line throwing, followed by David Lyle’s cannons in the 1870s and shoulder fired guns by Ingersoll, Coston and others in the 1880s and later. Ships still carry line throwers in various configuration, and they are also widely used by firefighters. Today most ships have switched to Schermuly type rockets, but fired from a single-use plastic canister which is not subject to regulation as a “firearm” by gun-phobic foreign governments. As life saving devices, with the bore obstructed by small projections to prevent firing of projectiles but not interfering with the launching of the line throwing rocket, the Kilgore GR-52 is not considered a firearm and no FFL is needed to purchase. Overall fine to excellent outside with most of the gloss black paint finish remaining. The bore has corrosion from firing and poor cleaning, or maybe just exposure to salt air for extended periods. I discovered that it is missing the extractor, but since no one has the impulse cartridges or rockets any more who cares. These have a handle on the top of the barrel to help hold it when firing, not so much for the very limited recoil, but because the gun with rocket inserted is heavy and you want it under good control when on a heaving deck of a ship in distress. I have done a lot of research on various line throwing guns, and would be happy to share a copy upon request, or will try to post it on our other site, ArmsCollectors.com, and it will eventually be posted at http://ASOAC.org for whom it was written and first published. Price for Kilgore GR-52 line throwing pistol and one fired case is $265.00 (View Picture) 14630 SCARCE SWEDISH MODEL 1867 ROLLING BLOCK RIFLE MADE BY REMINGTON IN 1867- WITH BAYONET! - Serial number 3701, matching on left side of the receiver, butt stock and buttplate, with the 1867 date of manufacture on the right side of the barrel, receiver and butt. Additional number 6538 stamped on left barrel flat. This is one of the most desirable of all the Swedish M1867 rolling blocks as it is one of the original 10,000 made by Remington in Ilion. Remington also provided 20,000 actions, and licensed the Swedes to make rifles in Sweden, selling them tooling and jigs for the purpose, along with American made production machinery. This tooling ended up as the basis for Carl Gustafs Stad Gevarsfaktori and other arms making plants, and eventually they turned out some 100,000 rolling block rifles and at least 4.000 carbines. In addition, Norway ended up making about 53,000 M1867 rifles at the Norwegian arsenal at Kongsberg, and buying 5,000 from Husqvarna in Sweden. These are historically significant arms, from a period when Sweden and Norway were unified to a some extent. They jointly adopted the Remington rolling block system in 1867. The Swedes had a bunch of muzzle loading rifles they intended to convert to breechloaders, so they chose a 12.17mm cartridge with the same bore diameter as the muzzle loaders, converting those using actions provided by Remington, or made in Sweden under license. Depending on the original model those became "gevär m/1860-68", "gevär m/1864-68" or "gevär m/1860-64-68." The M1867 rifles remained in Swedish service until replaced by the Model 1894/1896 Mauser carbines and rifles. Originally made in 12.17x44mm rimfire (comparable to, but not identical with the .50-70 case), some of the M1867s were converted to 12.17x44mmR centerfire starting in 1874 (Model 1867-74). In 1884 the Norwegians adopted 10.15x61mmR Jarmann rifles, but the Swedes declined. In 1889 Sweden modernized some their rolling blocks using new barrels in 8x58mmR Danish Krag caliber. (Not part of the Sweden-Norway union but strongly tied to them, Denmark also adopted a Model 1867 rolling block, but chambered for a 11.35mm rimfire cartridge, replacing these with the Danish 8mm Krag rifle in 1889, while Norway adopted a 6.5mm Krag in 1894. As you can see, the Scandinavian weapons history is a bit of a tangled story, but it would be an interesting and not too expensive collecting niche.) Overall condition of this Remington made Swedish Model 1867 rifle is about fine, with traces of case colors on the receiver, and about 80% thinning original blue on the barrel. The American walnut stocks show assorted mostly minor dings and scars of an issued service arm. The wood is a little dry and some appropriate treatment would improve the appearance. Excellent bore. Note that this comes with the correct Model 1867 Swedish socket bayonet, with most of its blue finish, going nicely with the rifle. These rifles were made with a lug on the side of the barrel so that they could be issued with either the socket bayonet or a sword bayonet. A very nice example of the scarce early Remington made Swedish rifle, not the more common Swedish made guns. ANTIQUE, no FFL needed. $1350.00 (View Picture) **STOLEN BY PERSON IN PORTLAND, OR AREA, or possibly a long haul trucker. $500 reward for return of this item or information leading to arrest and conviction of the thief, who got several other antique arms from other dealers by credit card fraud... $100 reward if you are first to spot this on an auction site.** 12036 U.S. MODEL 1863 TYPE II .58 CALIBER RIFLE MUSKET - Made at Springfield in 1864 and so marked on the lockplate. Barrel date not visible. Excellent bore. This is a good representative example of a .58 caliber Civil War musket, although not in the best condition. Basically a "brown gun" except for the trigger guard which has about 90-95% arsenal blue and must have been taken from a trapdoor (parts are identical except for being left bright on the M1855-1870 and blued on the M1873-1888 trapdoors. Otherwise all original and correct parts. Stock has been broken through he wrist and repaired long ago, but is not real tight and should be redone with epoxy which will make it stronger than the original wood. The stock has been sanded, but not badly. Metal parts (except trigger guard) mostly have a layer of brown patina/rust, with some light pitting under some areas, most notably around the nipple. Displays okay as is, or could be polished up with 320 emery cloth if you prefer the original bright look. The M1863 (type 2) which is sometimes called the M1864, was the highpoint in the development of the rifle musket for Infantry use, and the next year was replaced by the first of the Allin breechloding "trapdoors." The M1863 (Type 2) differed from the M1863 only in having the rounded bands retained by band springs instead of merely screw clamps. The M1863 differed from the M1861 which had flat bands retained by bandsprings, and the nipple bolster set out a bit further and having a clean out screw instead of an angled flash hole, and used a "swell" in the ramrod to hold it in place instead of a screw plate. All the .58 rifle muskets fired a 500 grain (little over 1 ounce) soft lead Minie ball with a hollow base. When the 60 grains of black powder was ignited by the flash from the percussion cap, the expanding gasses expanded the rear of the Minie ball to engage the rifling. Sights are provided for 100, 300 and 500 yards, but masses of troops could be engaged at ranges up to 1,000 yards. With a rate of fire of about 3 rounds per minute, and its long range, the .58 caliber rifle muskets forced dramatic changes in tactics from the massed formations used for the preceding several hundred years. Many collectors have a musket from the Civil War as a logical starting point for a collection of "modern" military rifles. This one comes with a good quality reproduction sling. Civil War muskets are getting more expensive but this one is affordable (due to the flaws) and has the potential to be much nicer after the stock has been repaired properly. $995.00 (View Picture) Non-Military Antique American Longarms (Kentucky Rifles, pre-1898 Winchesters, etc) **NEW ADDITION** 1003 SCARCE WINCHESTER MODEL 1893 12 GAUGE PUMP SHOTGUN DESIGNED BY JOHN M. BROWNING Serial number 9041 made in 1894. - The 1893 pump action shotgun was John M. Browning’s first pump action shotgun design, and the first commercially successful pump shotgun. Christopher Spencer’s pump shotgun introduced in 1882 was the first pump on the market, and worked marginally well, but was not a commercial success. The 1893 was a far better, lighter and smoother design. The successor Model 1897 went on to have nearly 1 million made, while only 34,000 of the Model 1893 were made. Unfortunately, the Winchester Model 1893 was made specifically for use with 2 5/8” black powder loaded shotshells, with steel and tolerances appropriate for those cartridges. But, it was introduced just when smokeless powder shotshells began to hit the market. Use of smokeless shells resulted in damage and malfunctions, and possibly even injuries. After the Model 1897 was introduced in July 1897, Winchester began to offer free replacement of any Model 1893 with a new Model 1897. Although not officially a “recall” it was pretty much the same thing. Winchester destroyed the Model 1893s that were returned so there are far fewer survivors than people might expect. And, many of the survivors have been damaged from use of smokeless ammo, making functional examples surprisingly hard to find. Finish is basically dull steel gray with light roughness. Wood has numerous dings with a chip on the toe and the buttplate curled over it, and the three screw forend wood has been broken and repaired long ago. Small crack in the butt extending back from the receiver, like in most of the 1893s and 1897s. Mechanically it seems to function okay, but is dirty and dry and should be a lot smoother after a good cleaning and lubrication. Original 30 inch barrel long barrel with good bore, and two line barrel markings including 1890 and 1892 patent dates. Any complete Model 1893 is a lucky find, and most are in this sort of condition, so it may be a long wait to find another, let alone a nicer one. ANTIQUE, no FFL needed. $1,495.00 (View Picture) 1246 SCARCE REMINGTON SINGLE SHOT PERCUSSION SHOTGUN - (No serial number) (Flayderman 5E-076.5) These are totally unmarked, and while a fair number were made, few people recognize them as a Remington product. Made circa 1866-1870s they were a cheaply made gun which sold well and filled a real need for both hunting and predator control. These were tools of the working man, not fancy “sportsman” guns for wealthy city folks to show off to their snooty friends. As working tools, the survival rate seems low, especially with any decent condition left. This is a handsome example, matching Flayderman’s description except barrel length is 30” rather than 35 inches. Lots of old (original or redone in period of use?) blue finish. Wood has only minor dings from handling and use. Wooden ramrod probably an old replacement with the tamping tip made from a .45-70 case. Excellent bore, good mechanics, and nipple probably replaced. We sell all guns as collector items only and they must be approved by a competent gunsmith prior to firing, but I am not aware of anything which would make me hesitant to shoot this one. This fit in with John’s collection of early shotgun types, but he is selling all the shotguns to make room for new interests. ANTIQUE, no FFL needed. $325.00 (View Picture) 1042 MUZZLE LOADING SHOTGUN ACCESSORIES - 1- Excellent condition circa 1870-1900 leather shot pouch with brass dispenser (measure) spout. Embossed game scene on both sides. Overall height about 8 inches. 2- Fair condition circa 1840-1860 steel powder flask shaped can. Makers sold these cans for the hunter market as the buyer could hook a shoulder strap into the tabs on the side and carry it into the field. There is a partial paper label on one side, but pretty much illegible. Early type with cork type spout not later screw top. About 7 inches high. No powder or shot included. Both for only $85.00 (View Picture) 1001 Winchester 1887 LEVER ACTION 10 GAUGE SHOTGUN- Not minty, but still nice! - Serial number 59375 made in 1896. This was John M. Browning’s first repeating shotgun design, made at the urging of Winchester, who insisted that they made lever action arms, and were not really interested in the idea of a pump shotgun which Browning wanted to work on. So, he made a pretty good lever gun for them. Browning was a Mormon, and like most members of that faith went on a proselytizing mission for his church. He was assigned to Georgia from March 28, 1887 to March 9, 1889, and the new Winchester hit the market while he was on his mission. The championship “Four B’s” trapshooting team in Ogden in the 1890s saw John M. and Matt Browning using high grade Model 1893 pumps, while beer brewer Gus Becker happily used one of the lever action Model 1887s, and hotel financier Archie Bigelow used a double gun. The Model 1887 made for black powder only was superceded by the nearly identical Model 1901 made of better steel for smokeless powder, which remained in production until about 1920, although sales dropped significantly after shooters tried the Model 1893 or 1897 pumps. A total of about 80,000 of the lever action shotguns were made. This was the first of Browning’s 5 repeating shotgun designs- (1- M1887 lever; 2- 1893/1897 pump; 3- 1900 semi auto-five; 4- Stevens 520/620 pump; 5- Remington 17/Ithaca 37 pump) This is a well above average example, with smooth action, good mechanics, some traces of blue finish, a bit touched up on the right side of the receiver. Buttstock and forend are in fine condition with lots of mellow original oil finish and only minor dings from use. Original metal buttplate and full length stock. Bore in the 32 inch barrel is good, but with some pitting, although some may be crud that a good cleaning will fix. Some light pitting on the outside near the muzzle. While not minty, this is far above the usual condition these are found in. ANTIQUE- NO FFL needed $1995.00 (View Picture) 22256 LARGE AMERICAN PERCUSSION FOWLING PIECE CIRCA 1830 - This is the type generally called a “club butt” which has a much larger than usual butt stock and often more extreme drop to the butt, as was originally found on Dutch arms brought to the new world by Dutch settlers in the Hudson River valley. Overall length is 60 inches This has a 42 inches long .78 caliber barrel with remnants of the bands at the breech found on Brown Bess style muskets, and what look like English proof marks and the letters I.W. usually associated with James Wilson, a prolific British gun maker. There is a brass blade type front sight but no signs of a bayonet lug. The underside of the barrel has an iron rib soldered to it, with one ramrod pipe. The pipe holds a brass tube which extends full length of the rib, and houses an improvised iron ramrod which is too short for use, but is probably a later owner’s replacement for one that got lost or appropriated for more important uses. The rod looks good for decorative use, or could be replaced with a wooden rod by removing the brass tube. There is a large “76” engraved on the top of the breech, but the meaning is uncertain. It is (remotely) possible it indicates use by the 76th Regiment of Foot, MacDonald’s Highlanders which served in America 1779-1784 including the Charleston campaign and finally surrendering at Yorktown. The brass trigger guard, ramrod entry pipe and buttplate are all British Second Model (Short Land pattern) Brown Bess style furniture circa 1740-1790, likely salvaged from a Revolutionary War British musket. Since there were numerous campaigns and battles in the Hudson River valley or adjacent areas, it is reasonable to find them on a gun made in that area. The lock was made as a percussion lock, probably in England, with modest decorative engraving marked “MELCHIOR- WARRANTED.” It is likely that the barrel and furniture had originally be assembled into a fowler circa 1790-1810 as a flintlock, but probably was broken or damaged and the parts used again with a new-fangled percussion lock circa 1830 resulting in the gun as it is today. Overall condition is as shown in the photos- well used, trigger guard broken at the screw hole, and lock needs tinkering, but still an impressive old gun to hang on the wall, especially in an old house circa 1800-1850. Due to length and weight, shipping will have to be $65.00. ANTIQUE- No FFL needed. $395.00 (View Picture)
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SCARCE AUSTRIAN MODEL 1862/1867 WANZL BREECHLOADING CONVERSION OF LORENZ MUSKET (14 x 33mm Rimfire) 14630 SCARCE SWEDISH MODEL 1867 ROLLING BLOCK RIFLE MADE BY REMINGTON IN 1867- WITH BAYONET! - Serial number 3701, matching on left side of the receiver, butt stock and buttplate, with the 1867 date of manufacture on the right side of the barrel, receiver and butt. Additional number 6538 stamped on left barrel flat.
This is one of the most desirable of all the Swedish M1867 rolling blocks as it is one of the original 10,000 made by Remington in Ilion. Remington also provided 20,000 actions, and licensed the Swedes to make rifles in Sweden, selling them tooling and jigs for the purpose, along with American made production machinery. This tooling ended up as the basis for Carl Gustafs Stad Gevarsfaktori and other arms making plants, and eventually they turned out some 100,000 rolling block rifles and at least 4.000 carbines. In addition, Norway ended up making about 53,000 M1867 rifles at the Norwegian arsenal at Kongsberg, and buying 5,000 from Husqvarna in Sweden.
These are historically significant arms, from a period when Sweden and Norway were unified to a some extent. They jointly adopted the Remington rolling block system in 1867. The Swedes had a bunch of muzzle loading rifles they intended to convert to breechloaders, so they chose a 12.17mm cartridge with the same bore diameter as the muzzle loaders, converting those using actions provided by Remington, or made in Sweden under license. Depending on the original model those became "gevär m/1860-68", "gevär m/1864-68" or "gevär m/1860-64-68."
The M1867 rifles remained in Swedish service until replaced by the Model 1894/1896 Mauser carbines and rifles. Originally made in 12.17x44mm rimfire (comparable to, but not identical with the .50-70 case), some of the M1867s were converted to 12.17x44mmR centerfire starting in 1874 (Model 1867-74). In 1884 the Norwegians adopted 10.15x61mmR Jarmann rifles, but the Swedes declined. In 1889 Sweden modernized some their rolling blocks using new barrels in 8x58mmR Danish Krag caliber.
(Not part of the Sweden-Norway union but strongly tied to them, Denmark also adopted a Model 1867 rolling block, but chambered for a 11.35mm rimfire cartridge, replacing these with the Danish 8mm Krag rifle in 1889, while Norway adopted a 6.5mm Krag in 1894. As you can see, the Scandinavian weapons history is a bit of a tangled story, but it would be an interesting and not too expensive collecting niche.)
Overall condition of this Remington made Swedish Model 1867 rifle is about fine, with traces of case colors on the receiver, and about 80% thinning original blue on the barrel. The American walnut stocks show assorted mostly minor dings and scars of an issued service arm. The wood is a little dry and some appropriate treatment would improve the appearance. Excellent bore. Note that this comes with the correct Model 1867 Swedish socket bayonet, with most of its blue finish, going nicely with the rifle. These rifles were made with a lug on the side of the barrel so that they could be issued with either the socket bayonet or a sword bayonet. A very nice example of the scarce early Remington made Swedish rifle, not the more common Swedish made guns. ANTIQUE, no FFL needed. $1350.00 (View Picture) 23268 Swiss Model 1869/1871 .41 rimfire Bolt Action Vetterli Repeating Rifle - Serial number 7129 matching, made by Rychner & Keller, Aarau. Although never used in combat (due to the Swiss policy of ensuring that all citizens were heavily armed skilled marksmen, not disarmed girly-men peaceniks). The bolt action Vetterli rifle with its 11 round tubular magazine was adopted at a time when most nations were still diddling with single shots, or attempting cheapskate conversions of muzzle loaders. The U.S. Army was in love with Trapdoors, and rejected other options for more than 20 years after the Swiss adopted the Vetterli. The only downside of the Swiss Vetterli was the weak rimfire ammunition (nominally 10.4x46mmR). This rifle is the standard infantry model with 33 inch barrel. The Models 1869 and 1871 have the square checkering on the forend, while the later 1878 and 1881 models do not, although they had minor mechanical improvements and better sights. The 1869 had a sliding cover for the loading gate, which was eliminated on the 1871. Many of the Swiss rifles were sold off as surplus in the early to mid 20th century. Winchester loaded .41 rimfire ammo up until WW2 and in the 1960s nearly unissued Vetterli rifles were selling from “Ye Olde Hunter” for $9.95 each. Ah, the good old days.
This rifle is in good condition except that it has been poorly stored, so much of the original blue finish has turned to plum patina or acquired some light surface rust. This needs a good cleaning of all the metal parts, and a good rubbing with linseed oil on the stock to make it look a lot nicer than it is now. The unsanded walnut stock is dry and has assorted minor handling dings and bruises. Bore is dirty but good, and may clean better, but irrelevant as you are unlikely to find any .41 Swiss ammo to shoot. This is complete with the cleaning rod, which is often missing. A good representative example of an important and interesting rifle. These early Model 1869-1871 rifles are much harder to find, and usually in lesser condition than the later Model 1878 and 1881 rifles. Swiss rifles can be a fun and (relatively) inexpensive collecting niche, with a wide variety of variations from the core group of muzzle loading Federal rifles, the Milbank Amslers, Vetterlis, and Schmidt-Rubins. All are made of the finest materials to the highest quality standards, and fairly easy to find at affordable prices. $595.00 (View Picture) Longarms not needing FFL, Miscellaneous Stuff and Restoration Projects! Cootl stuf that does not fit well in the other categories. And, for those of you who have thoughtfully stashed away some stocks and hardware (or stocks and bonds with which to invest in stocks and bands) here are some prime candidates for restoration. Some of these rifles were converted to sporters many years ago when no one was interested in collecting "surplus" military rifles and everybody was busy turning them into cheap deer rifles. While many people butchered the stocks and cut off barrels and refinished things, a few considerate (or lazy) people merely chopped off the stock and threw away all the useless bands and stuff. These rifles are very easy to restore if you have an appropriate stock and bands. **NEW ADDITION** 1752 REALLY NICE EGYPTIAN HAKIM AIR RIFLE TRAINER MADE IN GERMANY BY ANSCHUTZ - Serial number 1712 (translated from the Egyptian-Arabic markings). These are 5.5mm which is the European designation for the .22 caliber skirted lead air rifle pellet. After the Egyptians bought the machinery from Sweden for making the semi-auto Ljungman rifle, which they converted to 8 x 57mm Mauser called the Hakim, they decided they needed a training rifle. They contracted with famous German arms maker Anschutz to make a single shot, under lever air rifle based on a rifle already in production (mechanically similar to the respected BSA 1947 Airsporter). Anschutz came up with a full length stock and modified the exterior and sights to imitate those on the Hakim and lead weights (internally in the stock) made it as heavy as the Hakim. These are reportedly quite accurate and reliable shooters. About 2,800 made about 1955, and many of those suffered abuse and neglect with rag-tag Egyptian forces in the desert. This one is one of the best condition of these I have seen, with about 99% of the original parkerize finish and a couple of blued parts with only a couple of thin spots on sharp edges or tiny scrapes. The walnut stock is unsanded, and not oil soaked or damaged like most. It does have a dozen or so assorted minor dings and scrapes in the wood, far nicer than the others I have seen. There is a lot of conflicting information (or speculation) on these but the three best sources seem to be the three part Pyramid Air series (links below) for detailed history, mechanics and shooting tips. Previous owner said he shot it a few times and it was very accurate, but I cannot check that. https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2016/02/hakim-egypts-pellet-rifle-trainer-was-better-than-the-firearm/ https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2016/02/hakim-egypts-pellet-rifle-trainer-was-better-than-the-firearm-part-2/ https://www.pyramydair.com/blog/2016/04/hakim-egypts-pellet-rifle-trainer-was-better-than-the-firearm-part-3/ NOT A “FIREARM” SO NO FFL NEEDED $595.00 (View Picture) **NEW ADDITION** 1740 SCARCE AND IMPRESSIVE “DOUBLE SIZE M2 CARBINE TRAINER” - “Carbine Training Aid M21, Part Number 7268241. Army Device DVC 9-4” A great centerpiece for a display of M1 Carbines. This is about 72 inches overall length when assembled, so the photos show the various components individually, not assembled. The Navy procured four different double size small arms trainers, for use by all services, circa 1951-1953. These were the M1 Garand Rifle, M2 Carbine, M1918A2 Browning Automatic Rifle and the Model 1919A4 .30 caliber Browning Machine Gun. Each trainer consisted of a model twice the size of the original weapon, with parts made of wood, aluminum, zinc castings, and steel. Each came with a wooden carrying case which converted to a display stand. The Double Size M2 Carbine trainer was originally delivered with 24 cartridges, two fifteen round magazines, and a manual, packed in a plywood storage chest measuring about 57” x 20” x 5” with total weight about 74 pounds. The late, much missed gentleman Bill Ricca had a lot of info on these on his site, thankfully preserved here: http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/ricca_Double_size_trainers.html This one comes with one original magazine filled with dummy cartridges. Metal parts are fine to excellent and all there. It is missing the handguard (as are most I have seen). The stock is in fine to excellent condition with only a few dings and chips, although there is a small crack from the recoil plate screw as shown in the photos. The stock finish and red paint in the cutout areas were probably touched up in use many decades ago. No case, and I have never seen one with the carrying case/stand. It would be easy to fabricate the plywood case based on the photos at the website above. This is one of the nicest of the Double Size M2 Carbine trainers I have seen. NON-firearm so no FFL required. If requested we will provide note for your wife explaining that this would really be a fantastic decorative addition to your living room over the couch or TV. $1750.00 (View Picture A) (View Picture B) (View Picture C) **NEW ADDITION** 1727 WW2 U.S. NAVY "DUMMY TRAINING RIFLE/MARK 1- U.S.N.” - Rifles were desperately needed for front line troops during WW2, leading to the purchase of dummy rifles for use in basic training to teach marching and close order drill, etc. This made hundreds of thousands of "real" rifles available for issue to troops in combat units, or advanced training. The Parris-Dunn Corporation of Clarinda, Iowa, produced a full size replica of the Model 1903 Springfield, and the Navy bought 300,000 and the Army got 200,000 more. The Navy rifles were marked on the buttplate “U.S.N./ Dummy Rifle/Mark I” along with the maker’s name. Nearly identical versions were sold as the “Victory Trainer,” and smaller versions were made for commercial sales until a few years ago. The Dummy Rifle Mark I continued in ceremonial use in some naval commands well into the 1970s. This example is totally correct and complete with about 95% original blue finish on the metal parts, but having some light surface rust spots that need a careful cleaning. The wooden stock has a couple of age cracks in the forend and wrist area, and the brown walnut stain and light spray coat of shellac or varnish has faded or worn off. This really needs to have the wood restained and varnished, and the black bolt knob and rear sight base areas touched up with black paint to return it to correct original appearance. Buttplate marked "DUMMY TRAINING RIFLE/ MARK I - U.S.N./ PARRIS-DUNN CORP/ CLARINDA IOWA" has little blue finish. We have had a lot of these over the years, and it is rare to find one that is not missing some of the sling/stacking swivels, or especially the folding rear sight leaf. This will be far above average when restored. A must for any M1903 Springfield or WW2 Navy collector. Not a firearm, no FFL or paperwork needed, and not even banned in Kalifornia, yet. $165.00 (View Picture) **NEW ADDITION** 1739 SCARCE AND IMPRESSIVE “DOUBLE SIZE M1 GARAND TRAINER - “Rifle Training Aid M24, Part Number 7268243. Army Device DVC 9-5” A great centerpiece for a display of the “Greatest battle implement ever devised.” This is about 86 inches overall length when assembled, so the photos show the various components individually, not assembled. The Navy procured four different double size small arms trainers, for use by all services, circa 1951-1953. These were the M1 Garand Rifle, M2 Carbine, M1918A2 Browning Automatic Rifle and the Model 1919A4 .30 caliber Browning Machine Gun. Each trainer consisted of a model twice the size of the original weapon, with parts made of wood, aluminum, zinc castings, and steel. Each came with a wooden carrying case which converted to a display stand. The Double Size M1 Garand trainer was originally delivered with 24 cartridges, two eight round clips, and a manual, packed in a plywood storage chest measuring about 66” x 20” x 6” with total weight about 86 pounds. The late, much missed gentleman Bill Ricca had a lot of info on these on his site, thankfully preserved here: http://www.uscarbinecal30.com/ricca_Double_size_trainers.html This one comes with both handguards and one eight round en bloc clip with eight cartridges. Most of the handful of double size trainers I have see were missing one or both handguards and usually the clip or cartridges as well. Good mechanics, but needing a good cleaning and lubrication to function smoothly. The stock has some damage at the wrist where the laminated pieces were joined and later got loose and glued back together after some chunks chipped off. Several dings and chips on edges, and the rear handguard has a crack. Stock would look a lot better if fixed by someone with woodworking skills. I have seen photos of one with the carrying case/stand, but all the others have been the loose trainer itself. It would be easy to fabricate the plywood case based on the photos at the website above. NON-firearm so no FFL required. If requested we will provide note for your wife explaining that this would really be a fantastic decorative addition to your living room over the couch or TV. $1595.00 (View Picture A) (View Picture B) (View Picture C) (View Picture D) 1736 2- SHOTGUN “LEG OF MUTTON” LEATHER CARRYING CASE - What a proper gentleman shooter would use to carry their guns to the range, or the hunt in their carriage, automobile or train. Originally made for use with double barrel guns, but could work with other takedown guns if the size is compatible. Overall length about 34” x 9” x 4” on the outside. This should work for guns with 30 inch barrels. These have a somewhat moveable inner divider to keep the barrels and stock from rubbing, and a cloth sleeve to hold cleaning rods or maybe the wood forend. The cloth divider piece is torn, but the stiff divider is excellent, and the interior lining is okay. This has an illegible marking on the end of the cap. Made of what looks like pigskin not heavy horse or cow hide, and is fairly light weight. This has been used a lot and the stitching and edges at the muzzle end show wear and possible repair. Has serviceable carrying strap and luggage handle with addition of two aluminum screw posts at the hinge piece for the cap. Leather is basically sound with no cuts or tears. Brass plate for owner’s name has 4 letters scratched in it. This is a good example for actual use, but not quite nice enough to be used as a display accessory for a fine double gun. $35.00 (View Picture) 551 RARE EARLY DAISY NO. 111 MODEL 40 “RED RYDER” AIR RIFLE CIRCA 1940-41 WITH COPPER BANDS - First made in 1940, the Red Ryder has been in more or less continuous production since then, except during WW2 years, with an astounding 9 million made so far. This is several generations older than the gun Ralphie lusted after in “Christmas Story, and is old enogh to have been “the old man’s” gun when he was a kid. This has the following distinctive early features: copper washed front sight band staked (not spot welded) on the barrel. Copper washed spot welded barrel band on the forend. Rear sight screw adjustable for elevation (screw missing). Wood stocks with the Red Ryder logo branded on the left side of the butt. The shot tube loading is the “twist the muzzle cap” type. Lever is cast iron, not aluminum. This is a used, but not abused example, with about 90% original blue having a lot of light surface rusting and freckles, some of which will clean off, and some will not. Kid’s name that looks like “Jeremy Cobb” is neatly electric penciled on right side or the receiver. The copper wash is mostly worn off the two bands, but enough remains to confirm this is indeed the rare early model. The buttstock is cracked about an inch below the top of the receiver, but easily repaired. Wood screw to secure the top of the butt stock is missing. Butt and forend retain most of the stain and varnish finish with remarkably little wear or dings, but there is a little wear on the butt and a small age crack at the butt shown in the photos. I think the leather thong on the saddle ring is original, but it may have been trimmer or replaced. Not a minty example, but one that some kid used and enjoyed and took pretty good care of. This is a very nice example of the rare early pre-war Red Ryder guns for a collector. If you just want a shooters, there are plenty of those pretty inexpensive, waiting for your use. Just be careful or you’ll shoot your eye out! No FFL needed. Residents of Kalifornia and other places run by idiots please include note from your mother and proof you are over 12 years old, and promise not to shoot the neighbor’s cat. $185.00 (View Picture) 21251 RARE “WINGATE’S INDICATOR FOR AIMING DRILL” EARLY U.S. MILITARY GALLERY PRACTICE DEVICE - Patented in 1876, this was a predecessor of the later and somewhat similar concept “Hollifield Dotter,” using the energy of the firing pin striking the back of a rod to propel it forward so a sharp point will mark a paper target with a pin-prick to show if the aim was good, and group size for several shots. (See my 13 page article “U.S. Military Marksmanship Indoor Rifle Practice, 1858-1921: Methods and Equipment” in the August 2018 issue of Arms Heritage Magazine for more on this subject.) These were widely used by the New York National Guard in their 50-70 rolling block rifles, making them a U.S. military gallery practice collector item. Information is scarce, mainly George Wingate’s Manual for Rifle Practice (7th edition). Advertising claimed that these were available from Winchester, but I do not know if it was in the WRA catalog. I had never been able to find one for my collection, but lucked into a couple from the estate of a prominent collector. I will include a 16 page pamphlet with copies of the section of Wingate’s manual his patent for the device, and a replica of the target they used and photos of the details of the Indicator. This provides information and history behind this extremely rare item. This is cleaned, as shown in the photo of a sample. This is the New York state model, with overall length 38 inches for use in a 36 inch barrel. $165.00. (View Picture) Note- Please check
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